sexual orientation issue

[Anymouse]

1. What do you think about incest?
2. What do you think about sex with animals?
3. What do you think about sex with dead people (and perhaps, also with animals)?
4. What do you think about minor sex (e.g. 8 years old)?
5. What do you think about male homosexuality?
6. What do you think about female homosexuality?
7. What do you think about prostitution and paid sex?

Well, the short answers:
[1] Zenith notes that he does not consider "cousin sex" incest. First problem of incest: it is a matter of opinion, not biology.

Incest is Government and church defined sex crime. The government or the church tells you who you may have sex with. I would point out that the eugenics argument of "it passes on birth defects" does not wash. So does being over forty. So does having birth defects and engaging in sex, period.

(Sorry to my own son: you'll have to turn over your life to the "Sex Police" because your father has epilepsy and that's a birth defect you know. You "should never have been born." Eugenics doesn't wash very well with a "pro-life" stance that many churches take.)

That argument has been used by certain politicians before, starting in the United States [eugenics, supported by many churches here to remove "undesirables"], which was the inspiration for Hitler's programme. (He said so in Mein Kampf.)

I could even toss in the argumentum ad Hitlerium that the Nazis killed those with epilepsy (using the same drug I take for it to-day). But then, churches killed people with epilepsy, too. Still do in some countries. And governments forcibly sterilised them. In the USA. Until the 1970's. By calling them "feeble-minded." Sorry, dad and son, turn over your Mensa cards.

In Africa, sickle-cell anaemia confers immunity to malaria, arguably a good thing there. In the USA, it is a birth defect.

Concerning the oft-cited but misapplied definition for incest - paedophelia - they are not the same thing.

Keep the government out of the bedrooms of consenting adults. Period. The key words here are consenting adults.

[2] Not my thing. I would point you to the Garfunkel & Oates song "Sex with Ducks" on YouTube. (It's a hoot.) [3-7 follow video] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXPcBI4CJc8

[3] I try not to.

[4] Minors have sex with each other all the time. Send 'em to prison. Seriously though, what is 'minor sex?' In the United States it varies by state and by marital status. (For example, in Kansas, a twelve-year-old resident may marry anyone [of the opposite sex, of course, as the government wants to be in your bedroom with you to tell you who you can have sex with], with parental consent, and recently when a man did this with a fourteen-year-old and then returned to his home in Kansas City, Missouri, he was jailed.)

[5] See last line of [1]

[6] Sis, the Sex Police in my former state want to arrest you for your lesbian marriage. Don't go there. See also the last line of [1]

[7] To quote George Carlin: Selling is legal. Fucking is legal. Why is selling fucking illegal? Two of my best friends are prostitutes. (Really.) The argument that "poverty drives women (and men) into prostitution" does not wash. (Neither of them is poor.) So we will solve the problem of poverty by taking away one of the few things that such a person can sell and making it illegal, rather than solve poverty?

I submit paid athletes, or ditch diggers, or garbage men, or anyone who works in physical labour, by the definition of 'selling your body,' (rather than proper usage: selling a service) is thus a prostitute. What does that make the organ donor industry (to which you must donate, then they turn around and sell your freely donated blood or organs for fantastic amounts of money)? Pimps? or businesses?

I do find it somewhat two-faced that a rising caste of prostitutes in the USA are women trying to pay for college. We will take away their ability to earn tuition money, rather than addressing the problem of tuition being too high?

If I take her flowers and chocolates, then to dinner and a show, and go home and boff her, that's a "date." If I give her $100 (the cost of all that stuff, which she can then use on anything she wants), that's illegal. If I spend that $100 on anything she wants, give it to her, then boff her, that's still a date. Nonsensical.

James