RE: Why Didn't Jesus Write?
December 15, 2016 at 8:33 am
(This post was last modified: December 15, 2016 at 9:18 am by Drich.)
(December 14, 2016 at 6:55 pm)vorlon13 Wrote: um...what is different from the writing of Joseph Smith and the 4 different writers of the gospel?
all of Joseph Smith's first person stuff is all made up shit . . . .
(December 14, 2016 at 6:55 pm)Tonus Wrote:let's see:(December 14, 2016 at 6:21 pm)Drich Wrote: According to John 8 Jesus wrote enough in the sand to shut the pharisees up.The story doesn't say that he wrote anything to shut them up.
6 This they said to test him, that they might have some charge to bring against him. Jesus bent down and wrote with his finger on the ground. 7 And as they continued to ask him, he stood up and said to them, “Let him who is without sin among you be the first to throw a stone at her.” 8 And once more he bent down and wrote on the ground. 9 But when they heard it, they went away one by one, beginning with the older ones, and Jesus was left alone with the woman standing before him.
Quote: It was when he said, "let he who is without sin cast the first stone" that they gave up, after which he returned to writing on the ground with his finger.actually no... In the above Jesus is writting as the pharisees are trying to entrap him, He stands to proclaim 'the one without sin....' Then continues writting... Once they see/understand (akouō in the greek) what he is doing in relation to what was said the one by one move off starting with the oldest first.
akouō in this context means to consider or understand what is being said.
https://www.blueletterbible.org/lang/lex...G191&t=KJV
We know this because They go to test Jesus and Jesus starts writing. When they asked their Question, Jesus simply says 'to the one without sin cast their first stone.' Nothing else was said verbally to them, everything else said, and their reaction starting with the oldest first ALL had to do with what Christ wrote.
So it can indeed be said what Christ wrote in the dirt, silenced the pharisees.
Quote: I've heard some people's ideas about what he was writing (an amusing one being that he was scribbling the specific sins of the Pharisees who were accusing the woman) but all that John 8 says is that he was writing, not what he wrote.It does not matter what he wrote only that the pharisees did not understand what Christ had said nor what he was doing till he had finished...
Kinda like you now with what I've said or what I was doing. In that I am not trying to represent what Christ wrote only that He did to silence those who claim that He could not write or that their was no evidence that he had ever wrote anything.
Quote:As for the rest, if Jesus was indeed God then nothing would have stopped him from writing notes or a journal or a whole book.If again that what He wanted Or if again that is not what He had done.
Quote: He winked an entire universe into existence, why would he have to make time in his busy schedule to write one by hand? Or worry about gathering the necessary materials? Or about having the necessary authority to be taken seriously? Imagine that he hands his disciples a book that cannot be burned or torn or otherwise damaged and which miraculously reproduces itself whenever needed? That isn't beyond the capability of the being who formed a woman out of a man's rib, or fed a large gathering with a handful of food items and recovered much more than he'd started with, is it?Again I was simply educating you all who do not seem to understand what it would take to preserve anything from then till now.
You are right in that God could have persevered anything He wished. The question is what if He did not wish it?
(You gotta explore and understand what it would take to do 'X' to understand or embrace why it was not done.)
So then if even you say it is possible for God to do this, lets look at how the last time he did this turned out. Meaning the last time He wrote down the laws defining a religion.. That would be with moses, now fast forward about 2000 years to Christ. According to Christ how did the holiest of the holy practitioners do? Did Jesus give them a 'well done my good and faithful servants' or did he blast them every chance He got???
Now ask yourself Why would God set up another religion the same way He did the last one, just for it to fail on the highest levels?
Especially when there is another way a far better way Where God no longer need Priests or prophets to speak to us?
Quote:On the other hand, if he was just another rabble-rouser who pissed off a local Roman prefect and was executed for his troubles, then the lack of time and materials and authority would be understandable and make sense.It would if we never heard of him as with the 100s if not 1000s of other messiahs who came and went before durning and since that time.
(December 14, 2016 at 8:58 pm)Faith No More Wrote:(December 14, 2016 at 6:21 pm)Drich Wrote: Then with what writting stock, and on who's authority?
I don't know...maybe God's? He can create the universe, but he can't conjure up some paper and ensure a text is preserved?
Jesus Christ, God incarnate and savior of the world, foiled by bureaucracy!
Then again, if you CAN acknowledge God is a factor then you answer lies above.