(December 25, 2016 at 2:30 am)scoobysnack Wrote:(December 25, 2016 at 2:21 am)Jesster Wrote: Oh, of course. Everyone knows that atheists only serve themselves. Duh!
Silly theists. We don't need someone to push us to be good.
Sure I guess, but I wonder what it is you think is good, or moral. Many think morals are relative, and good as long as you think they are. Not saying I know you personally, or speaking about all atheists, or even all religious people. Hey, I'm not the perfect person, so I can't place blame on anyone, or judge anyone. Are there universal principles that all humans live by, such as love others as you love yourself, or the golden rule? Like I said, I could pretend to say I live by universal principles, but I'm so far from perfect, but I do strive to be a more loving person.
Well I certainly don't need someone to dictate to me what is or is not moral. Things like the golden rule (or code of Hammurabi) are good guidelines that human societies have built up over the years. It is generally relative in the end, but we all work together to make it flow as a whole. That's how we are both helping ourselves by helping each other. I don't see how a god is required in there.
