sexual orientation issue

[Zenith]

Did you really see an 8 year old boy sucking the dick of a 50 year old man?q

In mind's eye? Absolutely.

I can also imagine me torturing babies, but trust me, I couldn't do that in the real life. Nor watch somebody else doing that.

I ask you another question, namely, why should the number of people who practice incest grow?

Because it's something sexual that doesn't hurt me in any way at all. Same reason I would give for heterosexuality of females and homosexuality of males.

ok, so by this logic, the number of suicidal persons should also grow, because that doesn't hurt you in any way at all?
Why would you care so much for a guy to marry his own sister rather than marry other girl, that is not part of his family?

If it was 'very disgusting' then I imagine you saw either an ugly woman or an ugly dog or both.

No, it was a young lady and a big dog (quite beautiful). I didn't watch too much back then so I can't give you too many details now.

Ugliness has naught to do with youth. If they were both sexy: I cannot imagine their sex not being at least as sexy as their bodies in the first place.

Start watching porn with animals. Then give your opinion on that.

When I said "if it's about people" I meant "if it's about human beings", sorry if that was misleading.
Anyway, why would one desire to fuck a dead dog? For some reason it sounds very 'abnormal' to us. Would it be because such things do not happen to often in our societies and we are not taught since children to accept it as normal and natural?

Why would one not have a desire to fuck a dead dog? Only reason I can see is germophobia.

It sounds abnormal to you, not to me. I taught myself largely, since few others were doing it.

I don't know if you're joking or not, but the fact is that I can't give a reason why sex with a dead dog is wrong. I mean, I know that it does not 'happen in the nature', i.e. goats do not fuck dead dogs, etc. but we - humans - also do things that animals do not, and we do not do things that the animals do (e.g. if one is seen jumping on a goat and biting its neck and starting to eat from it while still alive and uncooked, he is regarded by everybody as "abnormal", not "normal", though such things do happen in the nature).

4. minor sex (e.g. 8 years old)
I totally disagree with minor sex, ESPECIALLY an adult having sex with a minor (the laws are currently pretty crappy, as it seems, because they make illegal the sex between an 18 years old guy and a 17 years old girl), but the fact is that an 8 years old boy should never have sex with an adult!

Never? I can see plenty of reasons for it. So much for a fact.

Name them, then.

1: Offered money for it.
2: Curiosity.
3: Interested in it and wants to try it out.
4: His parents arrange a marriage that must be consummated.
5: Trading sex for a nonmilitary gain.
6: Fascination with the feelings of genital arousal.
9: Thinks something tastes good.
10: Understands how sex works and is doing it for fun.
etc.

And you don't have any reason why an 8 year old child should not have sex with a 50 years old man?

I believe the society must punish (usually, it does) such a thing.

Why must society punish this?

Because it has bad psychological effects to children. That's what I've heard at least.

And i've heard eating McDonalds can lead to obesity in children and adults alike. Shall society punish anything that is remotely negative?

Yes. There are also sold foods that have bad effects on human beings. So selling them would be like selling poisonous food, which only takes much longer until you get illed.

I've also heard people having sex since ~10 years old (with children of their age) and they don't seem to have suffered some psychological things. I sincerely don't know for sure why sex between minors is really bad.

It isn't really bad. It isn't bad a lot. It isn't a little bad. Congratulate them on their curiosity and sense of adventure I say.

I don't know why, but I have that odd idea that children should do things of children (play with toys, use their imagination to draw, to play, etc.) rather than doing adult things.

Sounds to me like you've seen only part of *one* gay flick (incredible if you've spent much time on the internet at all)... I don't consider your distaste of it to be particularly secure.

Secure... for whom? for me? why?

For you. I didn't like water with cereal the first time I tried it. Month later I can't even stand to eat it with milk.

Yeah, but for instance, convincing a straight guy (male) to have sex with other guys (males) until he enjoys it, doesn't sound to be a good idea. Under the umbrella that "you'll start to like after some time" you can force somebody to do anything against his will.

Anyway, why do you think that isn't secure for me?

Then why do some people claim that it is gays' nature to be gay? It's only "sex" after all.

Because some people prefer sex with their own sex to sex with another sex?

That doesn't make them to be that because of their "nature". It's only preference. Or getting used to being so.

I'm not sure I understand your point correctly. Do you agree the fact that being harder for men to understand women and being harder for women to understand men should not be a reason for turning homosexual (whether male of female)?

Turning homosexual due to reason? Not possible.

Are you certain? If yes, what makes you so certain?

And if I would be to chose between enriching a porn star and helping the poor children that are starving and have no future, I'd use that money to help those children have a future.

You just said that these children have no future. Why give something to something that cannot make use of it?

It appears you didn't read carefully what I said. I said that I would instead help children that don't have a future to have a future. In other words, I would ensure a future for the children that don't have one. That's because "having no future" is not an inherent thing (i.e. it's not in their nature to be so).

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I'm starting to feel like this forum is full of sexual deviants. I thought I was weird.

I also think sometimes that I am insane, that I had lost my sanity long ago, or that I have only some sanity left. But I start to feel as a "normal" person when I see others how insane they are - and in those occasions, there is no need for me to feel myself as "special" (this works in occasions in which my insanity is the same as their insanity, but their level of insanity is higher than mine). In the other situations, when I'm surrounded by insane people, I start to think "Is it me who is not sane while everybody else is sane??" - because the thought that I might be sane and all the others insane sounds... incredible (it's almost impossible to believe it).