(January 22, 2017 at 9:35 pm)Firefighter01 Wrote:(January 22, 2017 at 9:42 am)Tazzycorn Wrote: Jim Jones wasn't a scammer? There are a myriad of miriads of accounts of people being lead to their deaths by conmen and charlatans. There is no evidence that on at least some levels christianities are much different.
I've always wondered about all the Christians that recanted on threat of death. Its funny you don't seem to hear about them. Also the proportion of who recanted and who chose martyrdom.
Yeah - you never hear jesus freaks talk about this very much....
Quote:Those who denied that they were or had been Christians, when they invoked the gods in words dictated by me, offered prayer with incense and wine to your image, which I had ordered to be brought for this purpose together with statues of the gods, and moreover cursed Christ--none of which those who are really Christians, it is said, can be forced to do--these I thought should be discharged. Others named by the informer declared that they were Christians, but then denied it, asserting that they had been but had ceased to be, some three years before, others many years, some as much as twenty-five years. They all worshipped your image and the statues of the gods, and cursed Christ.
Pliny the Younger c 112 AD in a letter to Emperor Trajan
