(January 25, 2017 at 8:08 pm)Firefighter01 Wrote:All of the characters were made up. They are imaginary characters in a story. But for the sake of discussion it's useful to discuss them as if they were real. The main problem in discussing the Bible is that no one has really read and comprehended it. It's a very complex story.(January 23, 2017 at 11:44 pm)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: Did you ever consider that Paul may have been made up too? There are several different writing styles under his banner. I'm not sure about your theory, it sounds like Joseph Atwill's and that has a lot of holes. You would think that if Jesus and his disciples were the real deal that someone would have been taking notes. What's the use of having dumb illiterate lackeys that do fuck all besides being his fall guys?
Also where does "according to the Scriptures" come from as in ..."that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures"? What scriptures? The Jewish Bible doesn't mention Jesus dying for our sins or his ministry or life.
As I've said before, the Bible didn't exist as a complete and unified story until an English committee wrote it around 700 AD as a gift to the Pope and in response to the Koran fairy tale that Uthman's committee had written in the mid 600s. So while the writers had the basic agreed upon outline to guide them each writer put in his own little gems to show that it was just BS.
Of course the religion existed before the Bible was written and so did various bits and pieces of various scrolls. But they were not the Bible. Once the English wrote it then the stories were fixed, like they had been written in stone. But of course as time passed everyone and his brother added his own two cents and now we have multiple versions that suit the casual reader.
The Koran was also altered that way. It wasn't originally written in numbered chapters and verses. Everyone overlooks that, even the most fervent cleric in Saudi Arabia.
As for the Jews they don't generally believe in Jesus and don't think that they are going to hell according to the Jewish Babylonian Talmud.
Religion is a con game that enables con men to gain wealth and power over their more superstitious buddies. The Bible has numerous examples of that.
