RE: The problem with muslims...
June 28, 2011 at 3:13 pm
(This post was last modified: June 28, 2011 at 3:33 pm by Anymouse.)
(June 28, 2011 at 2:56 pm)DeistPaladin Wrote:If they did that, I might actually move back to Oklahoma.Quote:They want scanners at airports but do not want to regulate terrorists like the Right-to-Lifers, Jack Daniels and Ingram or Colt.
On a tangent, I'd just like to say that out of respect for the victims of the Oklahoma City bombing, we should block the construction of Christian churches within a 100 mile radius of the federal building that Christian terrorist Timothy McVey destroyed.
(June 28, 2011 at 3:02 pm)Napoleon Wrote:(June 28, 2011 at 2:07 pm)Anymouse Wrote: The locals never want to integrate with immigrants; integration is a two-way street. "You can live here but you gotta be like me" is not freedom. It is a different sort of slavery: a slavery to a culture that says "you must be like us."
I don't think it's slavery at all. Do you have a choice about moving to another country? On the whole yes (although I'm sure you'll try and come back with some special case scenario). If you choose to move to another country with a particular culture then I don't think it's too much to ask to at least integrate somewhat with that culture.
Culture is an important part of what makes any country, and to deny that you may as well deny the earth is round. Sure it would be great if we could all just go where we please, and live where we like, and do what we want. But that's not how the world works is it.
Speaking of freedom, the western world has always granted more freedom than anywhere else in this world.
Special case scenario: So we should go with Bush's idea and strip all atheists of their citizenship, and burn all the Wiccans, since they won't "culturally assimilate?" I don't have a choice about moving if this turns into a theocratic state; most nations' immigration laws specifically prohibit things like people with epilepsy.
If it were mandatory here to take on the cultural mantle, then all atheists here are just as segregated as Muslims in the UK. They just don't wear burqas, though they have "Darwin fish" stickers on their cars and other scary things for the majority Christians to self-identify their religious leanings, no different than a burqa or a crucifix. They generally hang out with their own kind (but, like some racists claim about blacks, "they have some Christian friends"), educate their children not in the culturally Christian way, but in free thought and critical thinking, and enter into suits to remove Ten Commandments monuments from courthouses and Christmas displays, claiming the First Amendment trumps culture.
If cultural assimilation here were seriously pursued, the Establishment Clause would be in tatters and atheists would have their children taken away for abuse (not teaching them about Jesus).
Or do atheists get a free pass while Muslims must toe the line, and Mexicans, Poles, and Irish just have to put up with the racist/nationalistic humour whether they are assimilated or not?
"Be ye not lost amongst Precept of Order." - Book of Uterus, 1:5, "Principia Discordia, or How I Found Goddess and What I Did to Her When I Found Her."