(February 1, 2017 at 1:32 am)Huggy74 Wrote:(January 31, 2017 at 3:53 pm)Simon Moon Wrote: Yeah, leave it to an omnipotent, omniscient deity to have his 'word' (allegedly the most important message ever):
Be written decades or longer after the alleged events.
In languages he would know are sure to die, be susceptible to copy error, misinterpretations, human manipulation.
On little pieced of parchment, that are known to be easily destroyed.
To only a very small group of people in one very small geographical area on the planet, leaving the rest of humanity to 'invent' religions, that this deity would know would displease him.
Such great planning.
And none of this hints at Christianity being just another human 'invented' religion... Nope, not at all.
Actually the Bible was written first in the zodiac which I explained in this post.
http://atheistforums.org/thread-42171-po...pid1234508
That being said, trying to blame peoples ignorance of the Bible on God is just asinine, especially since the Bible states to "lean not on your own understanding".
(January 31, 2017 at 3:59 pm)Astonished Wrote: Or that you are absolutely certain the original text was in fact perfect or different in any significant way. By the way, do you care to back that claim up, Hugs, or are you just going to sit there with your thumb up your ass to hold in yet another empty, baseless assertion? Want to put some green on that proposition? And even if you're right, that means we can infer nothing whatsoever from the bible in its current form and is therefore useless and we should all be deists AT BEST. There's no part of that argument that doesn't make the proponent look foolish.
First of all you made the claim that there are contradictions in the Bible. I clearly asked you to provide evidence of the contradiction (this means to provide the conflicting scriptures). You have yet to do this.
You imply that a loving God flooding the world is contradictory, which shows you clearly have no idea what you're talking about. God is a loving God but he is also a God of Justice. Law requires a penalty, and the penalty for sin is death.
Noah warned of the flood for 120 years, no one believed him...
And spared not the old world, but saved Noah the eighth person, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly; - 2 Peter 2:5
You've had just as much warning, what's your excuse? If God was to destroy you in the same manner, after all the warning you received (let's not forget, you know the Bible better than theists do) would you consider that an injustice?
And where the fuck was god himself delivering this essential message? If his will is to let crackpots like yourself be his voice, fuck him and the rest of his flock. No loving being leaves something so fucking important so fucking vague, or goes to such an extreme length to exercise justice. That you would even try to justify this makes you a criminal in my eyes.
Religions were invented to impress and dupe illiterate, superstitious stone-age peasants. So in this modern, enlightened age of information, what's your excuse? Or are you saying with all your advantages, you were still tricked as easily as those early humans?
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There is no better way to convey the least amount of information in the greatest amount of words than to try explaining your religious views.
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There is no better way to convey the least amount of information in the greatest amount of words than to try explaining your religious views.