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Trumps not for freedom of speech
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RE: Trumps not for freedom of speech
(February 6, 2017 at 8:51 pm)Violet Wrote: Is there any possibility that those 'qualified' people on the NSC happened to be corrupt and/or unwilling to work with the president?

Irrelevant. You can leave their position vacant. The above conjecture doesn't require Bannon in particular to be appointed. Furthermore, Bannon is of questionable character. Is there seriously no better character for the job in the entire United States?

(February 6, 2017 at 8:51 pm)Violet Wrote: There were probably better choices. I don't think it's the end of the world, though: we've survived Obama's terribly corrupt cabinet, I imagine we'll survive this as well.

Comparison like that requires Trump and Obama to be comparable. Little overlap found between the two in history or accomplishments. Furthermore, challenges to judicial authority have not been so blatant. Finally, inept and lacking in leadership Obama has left the DNC, there is little concrete towards corruption. In stark contrast, Trump has documented instances of fraud and outright falsehoods.

Not comparable.

(February 6, 2017 at 8:51 pm)Violet Wrote: Tell that to Europe... You do know that radical Islamic terrorism is a thing, yes? Something something 9/11, and a bunch of suicide bombers?

Who funded 9/11, Sae? Saudis. Which nation wasn't on the blacklist despite being the country that Bin Laden was deeply connected with members of the royal family ? Saudia Arabia.

Secondly - when did Europe become part of America? Funny, cause it seems that you indicate that the existence of terror in one region should blindly influence policy in another that is far away. Simply assuming that Europe has terror attacks doesn't justify the ban as implemented. At best its ineffective - ony worse than no policy.

(February 6, 2017 at 8:51 pm)Violet Wrote: I'm not into that personally. Do I consider him the devil to do so? No. Religious freedoms should be respected just as gays should be legally allowed to engage in the farce that is called marriage (which should have zero legal ramifications in and of itself due to the religious origin of it).

He isn't the first president to have suggested such things... and yet? I didn't see anyone rioting about Bush.

Donald Trump said he'd do a muslim ban. He executive ordered a de facto muslim ban as he said would (using a prior list of Obama's in hopes it would pass - it hasn't). Thing is, the President must have good enough reasons to deprive citizens of their rights with his executive orders. He is not a dictator.

Donald Trump talked about getting rid of ACA. He executive ordered a look into that.

Already his most negative policies are coming into ugly being and this is the honeymoon period of Presidents! I wouldn't take his threats against the Church-State separation lightly.

(February 6, 2017 at 8:51 pm)Violet Wrote: Grizzly bears ARE a good reason to have guns in schools. They'll fuck a kid, an adult, and their gramma up. Also, as you may have noticed, many of the mass shootings that have taken place took place in Gun-Free locations.

This is so asinine I am not entertaining this. Try again - that block above is not rational.

(February 6, 2017 at 8:51 pm)Violet Wrote: Still, in what way does their creationism interfere with their heading of that department?

Davos advocates for vouchers, often an obvious trojan horse for private religious schooling. She has no experience in managing the public educational infrastructure - which is quite different from any private school infrastructure and is magnitudes larger. So you're left with a person who has clearly vested interest in one area and little expertise in another in an environment of scale.

(February 6, 2017 at 8:51 pm)Violet Wrote: Putin? Guy is terrifying in his own ways, but I happen to also respect the man. He's absolutely impressive.

So because you find him impressive means that our world leader, out of all the other ones, should publicly praise him? As opposed to an American? And someone who sponsored the Buk weapons system that took down an airliner with United States citizens on it over the Ukraine?


(February 6, 2017 at 8:51 pm)Violet Wrote: One of those position changes he did. Flipped that one round, to hear Alex Jones tell it Alex Jones is behind that one. Catch up.

Demonstrate this is a credible change of opinion.


(February 6, 2017 at 8:51 pm)Violet Wrote: Don't you trust your intelligence agencies? Angel

Our rights have been violated in innumerable ways, and we have done innumerable terrible things. But sometimes terrible things must be done in the defense of our country.

I personally hate secret police, but hell: it's not like Trump invented them.

I didn't invent murder - so may I murder you? C'mon sometimes terrible things must be done for reasons.

Tell you what - you be the victim.


(February 6, 2017 at 8:51 pm)Violet Wrote: Often misquoting, ommiting, interjecting... sensationalizing. Yeah, fuck that. I'd love to find a news site that just reports on the news, as I believe I need diverse opinions myself... but I haven't found any news site that fits the bill.

We have video footage of his speeches and successive footage of him denying what he said.

Argue this one Nostradamus.
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Trumps not for freedom of speech - by Amarok - February 5, 2017 at 12:37 am
RE: Trumps not for freedom of speech - by dyresand - February 5, 2017 at 11:13 am
RE: Trumps not for freedom of speech - by Amarok - February 5, 2017 at 11:43 am
RE: Trumps not for freedom of speech - by Assimilate - February 5, 2017 at 11:59 am
RE: Trumps not for freedom of speech - by Amarok - February 5, 2017 at 2:08 pm
RE: Trumps not for freedom of speech - by Assimilate - February 5, 2017 at 2:55 pm
RE: Trumps not for freedom of speech - by Amarok - February 5, 2017 at 3:12 pm
RE: Trumps not for freedom of speech - by Violet - February 6, 2017 at 11:21 am
RE: Trumps not for freedom of speech - by Homeless Nutter - February 6, 2017 at 11:34 am
RE: Trumps not for freedom of speech - by Violet - February 6, 2017 at 11:48 am
RE: Trumps not for freedom of speech - by brewer - February 6, 2017 at 11:53 am
RE: Trumps not for freedom of speech - by Pat Mustard - February 7, 2017 at 5:36 am
RE: Trumps not for freedom of speech - by dyresand - February 6, 2017 at 11:51 am
RE: Trumps not for freedom of speech - by dyresand - February 6, 2017 at 11:48 am
RE: Trumps not for freedom of speech - by Violet - February 6, 2017 at 11:53 am
RE: Trumps not for freedom of speech - by dyresand - February 6, 2017 at 12:00 pm
RE: Trumps not for freedom of speech - by brewer - February 6, 2017 at 12:03 pm
RE: Trumps not for freedom of speech - by dyresand - February 6, 2017 at 12:17 pm
RE: Trumps not for freedom of speech - by Wyrd of Gawd - February 7, 2017 at 2:30 am
RE: Trumps not for freedom of speech - by Amarok - February 6, 2017 at 2:57 pm
RE: Trumps not for freedom of speech - by Faith No More - February 6, 2017 at 8:24 pm
RE: Trumps not for freedom of speech - by Violet - February 6, 2017 at 8:51 pm
RE: Trumps not for freedom of speech - by brewer - February 6, 2017 at 11:44 am
RE: Trumps not for freedom of speech - by Violet - February 6, 2017 at 5:37 pm
RE: Trumps not for freedom of speech - by The Grand Nudger - February 6, 2017 at 5:49 pm
RE: Trumps not for freedom of speech - by abaris - February 6, 2017 at 6:17 pm
RE: Trumps not for freedom of speech - by Violet - February 6, 2017 at 6:21 pm
RE: Trumps not for freedom of speech - by Amarok - February 6, 2017 at 7:33 pm
RE: Trumps not for freedom of speech - by Edwardo Piet - February 6, 2017 at 7:44 pm
RE: Trumps not for freedom of speech - by Violet - February 6, 2017 at 8:27 pm
RE: Trumps not for freedom of speech - by Amarok - February 6, 2017 at 8:41 pm
RE: Trumps not for freedom of speech - by Edwardo Piet - February 7, 2017 at 6:12 pm
RE: Trumps not for freedom of speech - by Amarok - February 7, 2017 at 8:35 pm
RE: Trumps not for freedom of speech - by Edwardo Piet - February 6, 2017 at 7:24 pm
RE: Trumps not for freedom of speech - by CapnAwesome - February 6, 2017 at 7:40 pm
RE: Trumps not for freedom of speech - by Amarok - February 6, 2017 at 7:47 pm
RE: Trumps not for freedom of speech - by abaris - February 6, 2017 at 7:55 pm
RE: Trumps not for freedom of speech - by Faith No More - February 6, 2017 at 8:27 pm
RE: Trumps not for freedom of speech - by Violet - February 6, 2017 at 8:32 pm
RE: Trumps not for freedom of speech - by The Grand Nudger - February 6, 2017 at 8:31 pm
RE: Trumps not for freedom of speech - by The Grand Nudger - February 7, 2017 at 12:09 am
RE: Trumps not for freedom of speech - by Autumnlicious - February 7, 2017 at 2:48 am
RE: Trumps not for freedom of speech - by Wyrd of Gawd - February 7, 2017 at 4:43 am
RE: Trumps not for freedom of speech - by Asmodee - February 7, 2017 at 1:01 pm
RE: Trumps not for freedom of speech - by Faith No More - February 7, 2017 at 1:39 pm
RE: Trumps not for freedom of speech - by SteelCurtain - February 7, 2017 at 1:42 pm
RE: Trumps not for freedom of speech - by Faith No More - February 7, 2017 at 1:57 pm
RE: Trumps not for freedom of speech - by Wyrd of Gawd - February 7, 2017 at 8:34 pm
RE: Trumps not for freedom of speech - by Amarok - February 7, 2017 at 4:54 pm
RE: Trumps not for freedom of speech - by Asmodee - February 7, 2017 at 5:03 pm

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