(February 23, 2017 at 1:10 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote: We could just discuss it here. Frankly, we could probably spend a whole thread on the first thing that comes to your mind as a reason to believe God exists.
I don't believe God exists primarily because I don't think the arguments and evidence presented by believers is sufficiently robust to justify accepting the proposition as true. I'd be interested in knowing what your strongest, best reason to think God is real, is.
Unless you indicate otherwise, I'll assume that by 'God' you mean an extremely powerful personal spirit that created the universe and is directly responsible for the existence of human beings.
And I think that is the primary problem. Non believers tend to align themselves with a discussion format used to convince someone else who is out of reach out of range to experience a species or phenomena. Here's the thing though.. God is well with in reach of everyone. Rather than approach God like religions of old where one had to subjugate themselves to a religious practice, and or high ranking religious priests or prophets, Jesus' sacrifice gave everyone the opportunity to be in direct contact with God for themselves.
This means God ceases to be out of the hands of the specialized/religious and is accessible to everyone. Meaning if you are arguing against the existence of God, you do not understand the basic fundamentals of Christianity. The whole concept is about putting all of us in direct contact with God. If you are not, then you do not worship the God of the bible.
That makes the bible, and our 'testimonies' not an argument for God, but apart of the map to find God. That is the difference between those who know God and those who do not. They do not see an argument but a path to follow. one you can do on your own without the thumb of religion pressing down on you. There should be no arguments against God's existence, but rather only confirmation that your version of God, the one you grew up with and tested that one time, and got nothing in return.. That version of God does not exist.
I've always found it presumptuous and or even insane that one can say "God" can not exist because an individual from a single point in time tested their one sided one dimensional version of God and that version failed. Think about it.. Think out of 30K+ versions of Christianity You and or your parents got the right one? not only that, but I also assume you would have to be in 'good standing with your version of the God f the bible before he granted you wishes?!?!
Again! At best all you can say is you experimented with your idea of God and it failed. How then can anyone take such limited exposure to God and very limited knowledge of God and apply it to how the universe works?!?!?
