(February 23, 2017 at 2:51 pm)Drich Wrote:(February 23, 2017 at 2:09 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote: I cannot think of any variety of the god concept that I find in the least bit likely.
In fact there has been no idea of god that I've seen that I've found anything other than preposterous.Quote:but, in the absence of absolute knowledge that God of any kind can not exist, doesnt your statement make you extremely small minded?
No it doesn't.
Quote:Don't get you panties in a twist, I'm not calling you names. I am referring to the fact that if you are not back with an absolute, you're declarative statement at the very least point to a general lack of imagination, but more prominently an absolute refusal to examine anything you do not already accept to be true.
I am open to new ideas but they must be supported by evidence for me to take them seriously. Gods don't seem like a real thing, in fact I find the idea rather childish and given the complete lack of evidence I think that's how I'm likely to keep thinking of them.
Quote:People like that dot our history, they are usally referenced as the nay sayers who said things like the earth was flat, man could not fly, man was not built to travel faster than a good horse could run, ect.. They like you found what they did not already know to be true 'preposterous.'
You are getting this arse backwards it is the religiously minded who retard progress because they already "know" the truth goddit is the lazy answer and "I don't know lets find out" is the hard answer.
Churches actively oppose progress be it technological or social they like to keep things how they are.
You can see this demonstrated in how truly religious countries are , they become comparatively backwards, pinning their technology and dress to the time they became religious, its why the Amish dress like 19h century farmers and Muslims dress like 4th century arabs.
Quote:So then I ask you Mr. thinker... what separates you from them?
I fail to be fooled by the easy answer of religion. I seek the hard answers that are true. Because religion is the enemy of truth. By making "faith" a virtue people think that believing in something is enough to be as relevant as evidence. They fail to even see that what they think of as profound are just childs stories believed by people too small minded to see past the lies.
Quote:Think out of 30K+ versions of Christianity You and or your parents got the right one? not only that, but I also assume you would have to be in 'good standing with your version of the God f the bible before he granted you wishes?!?!
Over here religions aren't really a bif thing my mums was a protestant C of E and went to church some sundays and my wife is a spiritualist but faith is not a big part of life here.
Quote:...And if God could not/would not openly bless those types of believers, because they worshiped religion over God?
Quote:Again! At best all you can say is you experimented with your idea of God and it failed. How then can anyone take such limited exposure to God and very limited knowledge of God and apply it to how the universe works?!?!?
I repeat I have never experimented with god, why should I? it is a silly idea.
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Quote:never look at a globe, never folded a paper air plane, never rode anything faster than a horse. got it! you only want to live where man has comfortably been. you want to be safe... So safe infact you forego what could be.
let me explain again. The concept of god in every incarnation that has been presented to me I have found to be unconvincing and laughably stupid.
I am always open to new ideas but when all I have seen are vaccuus silly ideas of what god could be I have to say that I don't believe them.
You don't have anything new, you've said your piece here and it is less than convincing.
You say I am closed to ideas I am not but I can discard them once they've been looked at and found wanting.
If someone said there was an elephant in your fridge would you go back repeatedly to look because they keep saying "no really its there" even once you'd looked and found no footprints in the butter.
You can fix ignorance, you can't fix stupid.
Tinkety Tonk and down with the Nazis.