RE: Debate: God Exists
February 24, 2017 at 4:53 pm
(This post was last modified: February 24, 2017 at 5:05 pm by Drich.)
(February 24, 2017 at 2:06 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote: Let me use your analogy of the flat earther back at you.If you were honest you would know despite the long standing tradition of usng this argument to describe a Christian you couldn't in all fairness.
Your next sentence is the reason why:
Quote:The belief in a flat earth is a belief held by people despite there being ample evidence to discredit it.So let me clairify with a simple question. How can you prove something does not exist, when at best all you can demonstrate is that you are not in the presence of said object or person.
Quote:Every argument put forward for god has had to be revised in the face of evidence to the contrary, to the point that now god can only dwell in realms out side of scientific discoveryNot much on following simple instruction are ya? If this is the case best you stay away from IKEA.
Arguments for God are not Arguments of God. They are arguments that His instructions work. Truly what vetting process is needed other than to be face to face with God?
Quote:I find when things are supposedly in the place you cant look their very existence becomes unlikely.I find people who have claimed to look and found nothing, and refuse to do anything further have a "phone it in" experience of looking. (Meaning they have no real experience looking beyond their flat piece of earth they are standing on.
Quote:Given that the idea of god seems to me childishly stupid to begin with.very top shelf of you old sport here here!
_or should I say a simple mind moves to dismiss and or trivialize what it can't easily reconcile. (so as to not appear stupid or foolish)
Quote:I find the idea of god sillier than the idea of trying cut down a tree with some sloppy jelly or hopping to the moon.it because you have limited your think to a very small box of currently feesible possibilities. which is why I mock you as an earth is flat-er. Because you literally don't have the ablity to think outside of what you can currently vet.
Quote:I do of course have an open mind and am willing to be swayed by compelling evidence to the contrary.then define 'open mind' because clearly you and I are talking about completely different things!
You have admittly mocked and openly scorned anything outside you personal world view. Like hopping to the moon. Seriously at a point between the earth and the moon given a stable platform and a suit able to sustain your months long journey along with some very good math, you could quite literally make a single hop and collide with the moon.
But tht's not what you were saying specifically right?
THAT'S MY POINT!
A closed mind only look at a problem or situation from a singular direction and is not open to anything else.
An open mind looks to establish several different angles to a given problem. You openly mocked a hop to the moon, I can show you how/where it is theoretically possible. Now putting down what you meant, can you see that your mocking is a direct result on only being able to view 'hopping to the moon' one single way? which means from your singular view point you closed off all other possibilities as being impossible, even if they were possible?
That sport is what makes you closed minded. That is why I keep calling an earth is flat-er. Because you are not willing to look beyond what you think you know.
(February 24, 2017 at 2:14 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote: I fail to see why people worship god.I worship God because I love God.
Quote:If there was a god. ( I find this extremely unlikely)Kinda like you mom?
Then it would just be a fact.
Just everyone has a mom
Quote:Perhaps an interesting fact, but just a thing.did they stop teaching English over there? do you not understand the difference between a person and thing?
Quote:I don't get the mindset of people who need to prostrate themselves to things like that.Well it's only once a year, and men's health and awareness is an important thing. You want to catch potential problem early as their will always be more options and time to deal with whatever may come