Now and before.

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... Atlas, this is merely what I have seen from countless others from just about every religion you can think of in 16 years of online debate. When you have no positive proof with independent peer review, you resort to pretending philosophy can replace a neutral science lab.
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Science explains nature and the universe, not religion.
All I am seeing in the OP is different words in attempt to avoid burden of proof.

I took out portions of your post to make this simpler, not to change what you had to say.

I take it that you are in support of the "big bang" as scientific fact. Yet there are secular scientist who have considerable doubt about this assumed fact.
Lately many things have brought the "big bang" into question and one is red shift. We also know that there is a need for dark matter to keep the "big bang assumption" alive and well with all the new data we have. I'm guessing you are also in support of dark matter. You and most all "big bang" supporters are because it holds the theory together. Yet in the last 40 years in neutral labs as you call them not one bit of dark matter has ever been detected, not a micron of evidence exist for it, period. Yet people make scientific shows and put them on TV, it's written about in magazines and scientific articles like it is the most proven thing in the history of man, and that is a bald faced lie.
Science claims it is invisible an can't be seen, once heard that before from you and them about God, where is He we can't see Him give us proof. Yet you'll accept this magic material, yes magic because it's the only thing holding the "big bang" theory together, no proof not a micron. You toss away Jesus like trash because you think He is a figment of the imagination of the Christian Church, yet we do have writings about Him and from many sources, yet you will support with your last breath an invisible magic matter while calling Christians delusional. What are you going to say after the next 40 years and the "magical matter" still hasn't a micron of actual proof from those neutral labs, which means there still will be no real and honest peer reviews?
Call me crazy and or delusional because l believe in a God who has been argued over and attested to by the likes of Newton if that's what makes you happy. Just remember that you fit your own criticism of my belief in God with your support of dark matter and it's magical properties to hold up the "big bang assumption."

GC

I don't know what you've been reading, but...

1) By measuring the redshift we can measure how fast galaxies are moving away from our own. With that info, moving back in time, arose the notion that the universe was once in a single point. We'd be moving closer together, if we witnessed a blueshift... but no.

2) gravitational lensing around areas where no galaxies are visible is pretty good indication of some dark phenomenon, of a massive scale (massive, as in with mass ) is in place. https://www.lsst.org/science/dark-matter


This evidence may be indirect, but it's there, it's a real effect that can be measured by anyone with a good enough tool to observe the sky.