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Atheists, what are the most convincing theist arguments you heard of?
RE: Atheists, what are the most convincing theist arguments you heard of?
(March 16, 2017 at 11:35 am)Whateverist Wrote:
(March 16, 2017 at 1:15 am)ma5t3r0fpupp3t5 Wrote: So, this is a question I must ask.

Why can't the Big Bang be the first cause/prime mover?


For my money, the big bang cannot be the first ever cause of all time because you must explain how conditions could ever have reached such a compressed condition as well as what finally triggered its expansion.  Multiverses are the only alternative, unless you prefer supernatural origin stories.

While it is true that immediately after the Big Bang, the Universe was in an ultra-dense state, we cannot actually confirm that the Universe was in such a state before the Big Bang. Neither can we confirm that the Big Bang was, in actuality, triggered by something. All we know is that the Big Bang happened. It doesn't follow that the Big Bang necessarily requires a cause. Cause and effect are temporal phenomena, and time as we know it only began to exist at the Big Bang.
"Faith is the excuse people give when they have no evidence."
  - Matt Dillahunty.
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RE: Atheists, what are the most convincing theist arguments you heard of? - by masterofpuppets - March 16, 2017 at 12:52 pm

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