Debate: God Exists

[Drich]

Simple fallacy.

Simple trolling at this point.

Speaking to Allah is not necessarily elevating above Muhammed in Islam,

Actually it does as Muhammad got his directives fro the arch angel Michael, as he was too 'impure' to Speak to Allah Himself. If a muslim says they speak with Allah, then that means their spiritual pueity is greater than the PROPHET Muhammad.

many Muslims believe they do, just like many Christians.

Second time I've asked for a citation.

You are trying to define Christianity into objective truth, which you can't do.

All I've done here is point out by the very rules of religion only Christianity puts it's believers in direct contact with God.

Citations please. I think you 'feel' that you are right but never researched it. What you fail to understand is to claim contact with God in other religions is a death sentence in most cases.

Again as only prophets can make this claim. As I exampled above To make this claim in most if not all other religions even Judaism is blaspheme and a death sentence follows.

I gave you one source, but I will give another source for individual experience. I have met muslims that claim to speak to Allah, it isn't something new.

What a douche bag! You didn't even read the source material you left did you?
The question in ght e google search header that you did read described a muslim asking spiritual leaders about his supposed muslim uncle who claims to talk to Allah. Not that He does, he just wanted to see what the Qur'an had to say about it.

The part you missed:


Did you ask him what Allah (swt) has been telling him? Ask him questions, ask him about the environment of the supposed direct communication, ask him about the medium of communication, is it verbal? Symbols? Visions? These questions will not only help you get to the truth, but also help him/her get a clear picture of what is going on. – Allah knows best Jul 23 '15 at 12:05
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See Quran sura 42:51. Allah does not talk to a human being by direct means. It is however possible to see aspiring dreams etc.

Allah has also made family a responsibility. Providing family with sustenance and good education/training and not turning them away from religion is also a responsibility from Allah see Quran 66:6.

Tell you relative that if his change is from Allah, it must be balanced (Quran 2:143). If he is escaping from his family responsibilities in the name of excessive worship, it must be from Shaitan because the Prophet (pbuh) prohibited his companion Abdullah bin Amr bin Aas from ignoring his wife for the sake of excessive worship.



We believe the chain of communication between Allah and his creation is as follows:

Allah -> Angel Jibreel (Gabriel) -> Prophet -> people

Now Allah honored Musa(Moses) by speaking to him directly, but once again he was still a Prophet.

After Prophet Muhammad(saw) passed away, there is no new revelation to come.

The only thing that is left that resembles prophethood are dreams. Prophet Muhammad said that dreams a 1/46th revelation. Meaning someone may experience or see something that is from Allah, but the scholars say it has limits. Meaning no new revelation comes through dreams. So if someone says that Allah spoke to them in a dream and that they don't have to pray anymore, that was not a true dream. And Allah knows best.

I have studied Islam for some time, and can tell you have no idea what it is about or how it supposed to work. Here's an idea why dn't you ask questions about what you don't know rather than looking for way to demonstrate how deep your ignorance on world religion really is. Seriously, why do you who knows nothing of religion need to try and fool me into thinking you do? I have spent over a decade studying religions of the world, and here you come nearly cluless but pretending to know what it is your talking about. Why?

This is what prayer has been about (talking to God), and it is a major pillar of Christianity. 

You don't even understand the role of prayer in the christian church.
Glob...
Prayer is not about talking to God nor is it about Changing God's will or asking God for stuff. Prayer is about changing who we are to follow in the pattern from which God asks us to fit.
Look at the model prayer Jesus left us. How much of it was concerned about our daily wants or desires? how much of it was about shootng the bull?How much was dedicated in asking God for personal stuff?

Then note how much was of it was about asking God to change us make us and mold usinto something different.

But you certainly assume God exists, this has been demonstrated by what I said to you earlier.

Not in the beginning. after 18years of hell on earth I was convinced that (my version) of a loving God was not possible. So no. I did not start out that God existed. I mocked this God by beating his believers and doubble dog daring him to show his face, and continued to beat and mock his followers in my high school class till he showed up.

If you are positing that something exists, shouldn't a burden of proof be on you rather than the person denying it?

Are you stupid or something?
If I told you I saw the grand canyon and described the best I could it's full Majesty, then gave you directions on how to see it for yourself. Then you come back without lifting a finger's worth an effort with a "nut-huh, it don't exist" then isn't the burden of proof on you to disprove my claim? That's kinda how things work in court. why would this be any different? Oh, that's right your not smart enough to understand you are not arguing the typical metaphysical argument, based on intangible fact. Or rather you are trying to make my argument fit the intangible argument you are so use to defending.

I actually do have "proofs" of God's non-existence, I have manually constructed them (many from other ideas) and are still working to have a complete set. 

drag them ut sport don't be shy!
Let's see what you got!!!

However, by what you say, it seems it doesn't interest you to be open minded.

where would you ever get such an idea???