Debate: God Exists

[Drich]

If I told you I saw the grand canyon and described the best I could it's full Majesty, then gave you directions on how to see it for yourself. Then you come back without lifting a finger's worth an effort with a "nut-huh, it don't exist" then isn't the burden of proof on you to disprove my claim? That's kinda how things work in court. why would this be any different? Oh, that's right your not smart enough to understand you are not arguing the typical metaphysical argument, based on intangible fact. Or rather you are trying to make my argument fit the intangible argument you are so use to defending.

Drich, suppose you knew nothing about hallucinogenics.
Suppose I gave you some instructions detailing that you had to take a particular pill and that was enough for you to experience the hidden world. The world under our own, the meta-world.

You'd follow instructions and find yourself in such a world.

Does that make that meta-world real?

Look real close at the terms and phrases you've decided to use in relation to the question you asked.

You've answered yourself.

Besides, you are trying to compare apples and oranges. Do you remember the matrix? Do you remember Morpheus trying to explain to neo what the matrix was for the first time? He asks "what is real." @50 seconds:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGZiLMGdCE0

"Real is perception, it is nothing more that our interpretation of a series of electrical inputs from our senses."

IF you could accurately document the LSD world, and to one extent or another everyone who entered that world experience the same things under the same conditions. then even if the senses were altered, while in that altered state, those imputs would indeed be 'real' while in that state.

That what the Bible offers. It offers to put you the individual in front of the same God I was sat in front of.


Where you are comparing apples and oranges is the Meta-world can not be documented, and the bible does not need one to be in a meta state.