RE: Debate: God Exists
March 22, 2017 at 11:17 am
(This post was last modified: March 22, 2017 at 11:21 am by Harry Nevis.)
(March 22, 2017 at 10:35 am)Drich Wrote:(March 21, 2017 at 3:53 pm)TheAtheologian Wrote:(March 21, 2017 at 11:13 am)Drich Wrote: Because no one in that religion ever did.
Speaking to an angel and speaking to God is two very different things.
Quote:Muslims believe they can speak to God, as I have demonstrated.If they claim this then by their own holy book they are hertics. Now they most certainly just shout out their feelings or pray or even put their wants into a formal wishing cermony if they like. However their book states it must be a one way conversation, less he sends an angel to his most highest and holy prophets. which is completly different than speaking with someone. That in english is refered to as talking at someone. So your points about allah speaking to people... trollish fantasy. Otherwise provide book chapter and verse please back up what you believe!
I have said many time We in Biblical Christianity are unique in that we are the only religion that puts the believer in a direct relationship with God with no intermediaries. There is a huge difference between being sent a fruit basket, and one being hand delivered by the one you love!
Quote:Historically, Christianity can not be tested since it relies on untestable claims, and it is funny that you try to bring some rational method into here since you don't seem to be interested in whether your religion is actually correct but that as long as you have some religious experience than you are satisfied with it.This is completely untrue. History is full of examples of documented healing, prophesy, eye witness accounts to hands on miracles. Which is absolutely no different than how anyother portion of history is captured and adopted. To doubt the existance of Christ is to doubt the existance of anyother figure in that time period as there is more from that time period written about Christ than there is about anyone else. Like wise there is more hand written manuscripts concerning Christianity as any other document event or even story.
If you are talking about the historicity of biblical texts and Jesus, then I recommend you push past what just Christian theologians and apologists tell you.
Even today claims of miraculous healing and even the gifts of prophesy abound, however they are simply renamed anomalies or coincidences and dismissed.
In the end we all simply see what we want to see.
You asked "how so" in response to being called absurd? This load of crap is a perfect example why. You're so full of shit, you're eyes are brown.
(March 22, 2017 at 10:35 am)Drich Wrote: [quote pid='1527747' dateline='1490125981']
Quote:Rational thinking doesn't assume this but tries to examine it skeptically and find ways that could confirm truths.actually no. Rational thinking follows the pattern of popular belief. otherwise The rational 'thinker' would take God up on his offer and allow God to open the flood gates.. To sit the rational thinker down before Him and speak with Him.
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Here's another nugget of crap. You amaze me.
"The last superstition of the human mind is the superstition that religion in itself is a good thing." - Samuel Porter Putnam