Debate: God Exists

[SuperSentient]

If they claim this then by their own holy book they are hertics. Now they most certainly just shout out their feelings or pray or even put their wants into a formal wishing cermony if they like. However their book states it must be a one way conversation, less he sends an angel to his most highest and holy prophets. which is completly different than speaking with someone. That in english is refered to as talking at someone. So your points about allah speaking to people... trollish fantasy. Otherwise provide book chapter and verse please back up what you believe!

Nope, and I already showed you, you simply refuse to accept since you are so determined to demonstrate that Christianity is something unique in a way that shows it can only be superior to every other religion.

This is completely untrue. History is full of examples of documented healing, prophesy, eye witness accounts to hands on miracles. 

Are they testable? Can it be traced back to some divine intervention of a deity? The answer is no, it doesn't provide evidence just as people claiming to see UFOs is not evidence that aliens are watching us.

To doubt the existance of Christ is to doubt the existance of anyother figure in that time period as there is more from that time period written about Christ than there is about anyone else.

I accept the existence of a historical Jesus, but it also must be taken into account that the authenticity and reliability of these Christian texts is very sketchy and not universally accepted by scholars. There is simply no reason to assume that what is said about Jesus here can be compared to what other texts say about other historical figures.

In the end we all simply see what we want to see.

That is the basis of a lot of human subjective psychological experiences, what is interpreted to be a mentally relatable experience.

How so? alot of timing belts being required changing before salvation process is complete? What you fail or seemto be afraid to address is not that fact that these things happened to me.. But they wait for you if you simply bend your knee not to me but to God.

Which is exactly what I said, typical religion, pretending as if the real knowledge "transcends" human rationality and therefore God supposedly is only provable subjectively. 

What if you were privy to daily supernatural occourances? where God seemingly bends nature to get you out of a spot? how long would it take to convince you? Or what if you were sat down in a 'bruce almighty' one on one with God.. Would you demand the circus tricks (seven fingers on one hand)

If I found reason to believe these experiences are actually attributable to God, I would consider it.

THE ONE EXAMPLE YOU GAVE Was Of A Man Taking Direction From His God And Was Rebuked For It!!!

What you want to compare is a feeling verses physical and spiritual interaction/Relationship. Again not the same thing. 

Aha, now I believe we are getting to the core issue here. Why should I deny every other experience that is not connected to Christianity and Jesus and only the Christian based ones? How do you know your experiences are "spiritual interactions/relationship" and not other experiences? 
This is fallacious cherry picking, and isn't going to support your beliefs any more. 

You asked what makes Christianity true. I said because the bible offers a relationship with God if one will simply ABC

But that doesn't make Christianity true does it? Other religions have their own separate claims, why would a specific relationship with some God necessitate the truth of this religion? It doesn't, I want confirmation that this religion is true and God exists and Jesus is authentic as a divine being, after all, what is the point in accepting a faith that is not objectively true? I want it confirmed before I go into it.

Rational is based on supposition a logical WHAT IF or I GUESS that is the most logical

It is based on critical thinking and independent confirmation. You don't seem to understand science and rationality, that is a somewhat common misunderstanding of rationality.

In what world does "I guess" trump "This is what I observed?"

Rational thinking and science is based on observation, that is actually part of the scientific method.

Actually no. Not born into the religion. I experienced the truths and changed what I believe to fit what I learned. As should anyone that would pledge their life to God.

I said what you "currently believe." You do assume that it is true, it is expressed all over your post.

actually no. Rational thinking follows the pattern of popular belief. otherwise The rational 'thinker' would take God up on his offer and allow God to open the flood gates.. To sit the rational thinker down before Him and speak with Him.

It does not base itself on whatever happens to be popular belief. I now see your religious beliefs influence what you think about rationality and critical thinking. This is not good and I encourage you to look into how the scientific method works and the concept of critical thinking.

Aww, how quaint/earth is flat of you.

"Science" even the admission of science is self is limited to the Physical world. That means being stuck in one relative point in time and space will only yield a singular view of the "knowable" (but currently unknown universe)

Science does base its discoveries on empirical aspects of the world we live in. It is also the most accurate form of thinking there is. Science has generally accepted established conclusions worldwide. Religion? You won't get people of different religions agreeing on much of anything, all completely different ways.

(break down for you= Science/scientific method requires several points of data to come to a conclusion. On a cosmic level because we are currently limited to a relitive finite point in time and space, we do not have but a singular point of data to fuel and manage how the rest of a potentially endless universe contains... Not bloodly likly old sport.

We also can make indirect observations and predictions based on established scientific laws and theories. For example, the theory of general relativity predicts deformation of space time, known as black holes. Its pretty cool what science can do.
Religion? It hasn't given us anything to figure out, just that we have to act a certain way and follow some leader or we may suffer.

That is like one man looking at the moon and saying it is made out of cheddar and another with strong glasses able to see the craters and claim it is infact swiss. one data point in an infinite universe does not an expert make. your 'science' is the guy claiming it is swiss because he can see oh so slightly better.

Only, we know the moon isn't a block of cheese.

I'd say what you believe about prayer is wrong. If you look at the Lord's only example of prayer it is about You asking God to Change you into the Person He wants you to be. Not the other way round. Once you become that person or being shapped to be that person then it is easier to petition God for your personal items.

I actually agree with that conception of prayer as related to Christianity, I am not saying you are wrong about asking for change from God.

but again you looking for best logical guess/guessing on how to describe God, and I am trying to show you how to have your own audience before Him. To ask your questions directly to Him and gain your answers. Why would you ever want to play best guess when you can find out for yourself?

I want reason to belief God exists, independent of what my subjective experiences may be.

Not a persumption sport. Maybe you oughta look that word up too: "belief on reasonable grounds or probable evidence. "

I would be persuming if I only saw pictures of the grand canyon and never been there myself. Again I stood before Christ in my judgement, I interact with the Holy Spirit Daily God to me is more real than you are.

You do presume it, all over your posts. You are saying you don't see it?

Wow.. I like analogies because it shows me how much or little people understand abot a given subject. You understand little to nothing about God or religion.

My analogy actually does a good job explaining what you are saying. 

God simply wants you to Ask Seek and Knock as outlined in Luke 11.

Right here you are presuming God exists, you refuse to confirm it but instead say he does exist and it is up to me to seek it.

Again sport not postulating anything. I am pointing out the 'claim' made in the bible, and simply verifying by sharing what was done for me.

But you are assuming the bible is true in this case.

Actually I don't personally care what you do. I simply want you to make an informed desision.

I also want you to make an informed decision, but we will never figure out who is correct here if we don't find common ground so you can verify the truths of your beliefs.

I can't make God do anything sport or i'd be God.

So, you are saying that it is up to God to demonstrate his existence, and not up to you. I rest my case here. This is exactly the nonsense religion (including Jesus and Christianity) is trying to get by with.

Ah, no. Maybe theist in general do, but the followers of the God of the bible do not.

Like any other theist, biblical Christians need to as well.

God is proof of Himself.

I have yet to see it, but would like to. Instead, you tell me to accept his existence first with faith, then God will reveal himself. This is what I find concerning about religion.

Why oh why then would you think it any different with God?

I want proof of God's existence before I accept it. Not accept it and then proof. It doesn't work like that. It is cause and then effect.