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The Holy Bible - fact or fiction?
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RE: The Holy Bible - fact or fiction?
(March 26, 2017 at 2:31 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: Star Trek.

So far the list of achievements from that show includes Pads, Mobile phones, tricorders, replicators (3D printers), and numerous other inventions the show predicted.

Do you accept James T. Kirk, as your Lord and Saviour?

Not this shit again, this is just as bad. Scientists, not Gene, SCIENTISTS not Star Trek lead to those things. This is the same selection bias and sample rate error theism suffers from. 

I get the same types of claims about flat screen TVs and hover boards from Back To The Future fans. 

First off, in real technology business are always using science to make things smaller and more efficient. If we go by your logic you do know that the movie The Wizard of Oz depicts a flat screen TV in it, all be it round, still flat. How many si fi movies and shows of the Star Trek era or prior to it have you compared that show to? 

The show didn't predict anything. It popularized the ideas science was already working on, but other si fi shows and movies of that time and prior had similar motifs. If you think Gene pulled his ideas out of his ass and got no inspiration outside that show, you are a fool. By the time he had created that show he had decades of entertainment experience and had seen countless other si fi movies and shows. Star Trek got lots of things wrong too. The warp drive is wrong and science in reality says it only plausible on paper, but not pragmatic in reality because it would require all the energy in the universe to produce. Even the transporter is an idea he stole from a prior si fi movie. It was nothing but a green screen trick other prior movies had used.

Saying Gene or the show "predicted" anything to me, is as stupid as claiming Aquinas knew about quantum mechanics. Lots of Christians like to claim he did. 

He liked science sure, and he speculated as to what could be, sure, and he based his si fi on science, and sure, some aspiring scientists in reality may have said "maybe we can work on that". But neither Gene or the show was an actual lab. The real work and real predictions we done by scientists.

I don't give si fi wooers anymore a pass than theists. I am grateful for the show's inspiration of memes of inclusion and "what might be" sure, but the show was not a scientific tool or a scientist itself.
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The Holy Bible - fact or fiction? - by val5662 - March 25, 2017 at 7:05 pm
RE: The Holy Bible - fact or fiction? - by brewer - March 25, 2017 at 7:10 pm
RE: The Holy Bible - fact or fiction? - by Anomalocaris - March 25, 2017 at 7:12 pm
RE: The Holy Bible - fact or fiction? - by Alex K - March 25, 2017 at 7:17 pm
RE: The Holy Bible - fact or fiction? - by brewer - March 25, 2017 at 8:59 pm
RE: The Holy Bible - fact or fiction? - by Pat Mustard - March 25, 2017 at 7:21 pm
RE: The Holy Bible - fact or fiction? - by Minimalist - March 25, 2017 at 7:36 pm
RE: The Holy Bible - fact or fiction? - by Anomalocaris - March 25, 2017 at 8:36 pm
RE: The Holy Bible - fact or fiction? - by Whateverist - March 25, 2017 at 8:16 pm
RE: The Holy Bible - fact or fiction? - by Minimalist - March 25, 2017 at 8:55 pm
RE: The Holy Bible - fact or fiction? - by Chad32 - March 25, 2017 at 8:57 pm
RE: The Holy Bible - fact or fiction? - by Minimalist - March 25, 2017 at 10:19 pm
RE: The Holy Bible - fact or fiction? - by Jesster - March 25, 2017 at 10:24 pm
RE: The Holy Bible - fact or fiction? - by Minimalist - March 25, 2017 at 10:32 pm
RE: The Holy Bible - fact or fiction? - by Mr Greene - March 25, 2017 at 11:28 pm
RE: The Holy Bible - fact or fiction? - by Astreja - March 26, 2017 at 2:47 am
RE: The Holy Bible - fact or fiction? - by zebo-the-fat - March 26, 2017 at 4:26 am
RE: The Holy Bible - fact or fiction? - by downbeatplumb - March 26, 2017 at 5:08 am
RE: The Holy Bible - fact or fiction? - by val5662 - March 26, 2017 at 9:01 am
RE: The Holy Bible - fact or fiction? - by chimp3 - March 26, 2017 at 9:37 am
RE: The Holy Bible - fact or fiction? - by brewer - March 26, 2017 at 9:49 am
RE: The Holy Bible - fact or fiction? - by Angrboda - March 26, 2017 at 10:03 am
RE: The Holy Bible - fact or fiction? - by Minimalist - March 26, 2017 at 11:27 am
RE: The Holy Bible - fact or fiction? - by Cyberman - March 26, 2017 at 11:49 am
RE: The Holy Bible - fact or fiction? - by val5662 - March 26, 2017 at 11:07 am
RE: The Holy Bible - fact or fiction? - by Jesster - March 26, 2017 at 11:28 am
RE: The Holy Bible - fact or fiction? - by downbeatplumb - March 26, 2017 at 11:29 am
RE: The Holy Bible - fact or fiction? - by Angrboda - March 26, 2017 at 11:48 am
RE: The Holy Bible - fact or fiction? - by brewer - March 26, 2017 at 12:52 pm
RE: The Holy Bible - fact or fiction? - by vorlon13 - March 26, 2017 at 11:14 am
RE: The Holy Bible - fact or fiction? - by Brian37 - March 26, 2017 at 11:35 am
RE: The Holy Bible - fact or fiction? - by Minimalist - March 26, 2017 at 11:41 am
RE: The Holy Bible - fact or fiction? - by val5662 - March 26, 2017 at 12:04 pm
RE: The Holy Bible - fact or fiction? - by Jesster - March 26, 2017 at 12:05 pm
RE: The Holy Bible - fact or fiction? - by Brian37 - March 26, 2017 at 12:11 pm
RE: The Holy Bible - fact or fiction? - by Cyberman - March 26, 2017 at 12:14 pm
RE: The Holy Bible - fact or fiction? - by Minimalist - March 26, 2017 at 12:13 pm
RE: The Holy Bible - fact or fiction? - by Cyberman - March 26, 2017 at 12:08 pm
RE: The Holy Bible - fact or fiction? - by val5662 - March 26, 2017 at 12:11 pm
RE: The Holy Bible - fact or fiction? - by Brian37 - March 26, 2017 at 12:17 pm
RE: The Holy Bible - fact or fiction? - by Angrboda - March 26, 2017 at 12:47 pm
RE: The Holy Bible - fact or fiction? - by Brian37 - March 26, 2017 at 1:03 pm
RE: The Holy Bible - fact or fiction? - by val5662 - March 26, 2017 at 12:21 pm
RE: The Holy Bible - fact or fiction? - by Jesster - March 26, 2017 at 12:29 pm
RE: The Holy Bible - fact or fiction? - by Brian37 - March 26, 2017 at 12:37 pm
RE: The Holy Bible - fact or fiction? - by chimp3 - March 26, 2017 at 2:00 pm
RE: The Holy Bible - fact or fiction? - by Harry Nevis - March 27, 2017 at 10:06 am
RE: The Holy Bible - fact or fiction? - by The Valkyrie - March 27, 2017 at 4:17 pm
RE: The Holy Bible - fact or fiction? - by Cyberman - March 27, 2017 at 4:29 pm
RE: The Holy Bible - fact or fiction? - by The Valkyrie - March 27, 2017 at 4:35 pm
RE: The Holy Bible - fact or fiction? - by Cyberman - March 26, 2017 at 12:31 pm
RE: The Holy Bible - fact or fiction? - by val5662 - March 26, 2017 at 12:57 pm
RE: The Holy Bible - fact or fiction? - by Jesster - March 26, 2017 at 1:03 pm
RE: The Holy Bible - fact or fiction? - by Angrboda - March 26, 2017 at 1:56 pm
RE: The Holy Bible - fact or fiction? - by Astreja - March 26, 2017 at 7:58 pm
RE: The Holy Bible - fact or fiction? - by Brian37 - March 27, 2017 at 6:03 am
RE: The Holy Bible - fact or fiction? - by Astreja - March 27, 2017 at 11:15 am
RE: The Holy Bible - fact or fiction? - by Mister Agenda - March 27, 2017 at 11:43 am
RE: The Holy Bible - fact or fiction? - by Minimalist - March 26, 2017 at 1:58 pm
RE: The Holy Bible - fact or fiction? - by vorlon13 - March 26, 2017 at 2:06 pm
RE: The Holy Bible - fact or fiction? - by Silent Snob - March 26, 2017 at 2:17 pm
RE: The Holy Bible - fact or fiction? - by Silent Snob - March 26, 2017 at 2:01 pm
RE: The Holy Bible - fact or fiction? - by Brian37 - March 26, 2017 at 2:12 pm
RE: The Holy Bible - fact or fiction? - by The Valkyrie - March 26, 2017 at 2:31 pm
RE: The Holy Bible - fact or fiction? - by Silent Snob - March 26, 2017 at 2:41 pm
RE: The Holy Bible - fact or fiction? - by The Valkyrie - March 26, 2017 at 2:49 pm
RE: The Holy Bible - fact or fiction? - by Silent Snob - March 26, 2017 at 4:07 pm
RE: The Holy Bible - fact or fiction? - by Brian37 - March 26, 2017 at 2:55 pm
RE: The Holy Bible - fact or fiction? - by Pat Mustard - March 26, 2017 at 6:19 pm
RE: The Holy Bible - fact or fiction? - by The Valkyrie - March 26, 2017 at 6:25 pm
RE: The Holy Bible - fact or fiction? - by Cyberman - March 26, 2017 at 2:53 pm
RE: The Holy Bible - fact or fiction? - by The Valkyrie - March 26, 2017 at 6:42 pm
RE: The Holy Bible - fact or fiction? - by The Valkyrie - March 26, 2017 at 3:00 pm
RE: The Holy Bible - fact or fiction? - by brewer - March 26, 2017 at 3:50 pm
RE: The Holy Bible - fact or fiction? - by Cyberman - March 26, 2017 at 4:35 pm
RE: The Holy Bible - fact or fiction? - by Alex K - March 26, 2017 at 4:37 pm
RE: The Holy Bible - fact or fiction? - by Cyberman - March 26, 2017 at 5:36 pm
RE: The Holy Bible - fact or fiction? - by The Valkyrie - March 26, 2017 at 5:38 pm
RE: The Holy Bible - fact or fiction? - by Brian37 - March 26, 2017 at 5:52 pm
RE: The Holy Bible - fact or fiction? - by downbeatplumb - March 27, 2017 at 2:05 pm
RE: The Holy Bible - fact or fiction? - by Silent Snob - March 26, 2017 at 4:42 pm
RE: The Holy Bible - fact or fiction? - by Brian37 - March 26, 2017 at 5:00 pm
RE: The Holy Bible - fact or fiction? - by Cyberman - March 26, 2017 at 4:50 pm
RE: The Holy Bible - fact or fiction? - by The Valkyrie - March 26, 2017 at 5:34 pm
RE: The Holy Bible - fact or fiction? - by vorlon13 - March 26, 2017 at 11:15 pm
RE: The Holy Bible - fact or fiction? - by Cyberman - March 27, 2017 at 9:54 am
RE: The Holy Bible - fact or fiction? - by Cyberman - March 26, 2017 at 5:35 pm
RE: The Holy Bible - fact or fiction? - by Minimalist - March 26, 2017 at 6:35 pm
RE: The Holy Bible - fact or fiction? - by Brian37 - March 26, 2017 at 7:09 pm
RE: The Holy Bible - fact or fiction? - by Cyberman - March 27, 2017 at 3:58 am
RE: The Holy Bible - fact or fiction? - by vorlon13 - March 27, 2017 at 11:35 am
RE: The Holy Bible - fact or fiction? - by Astreja - March 27, 2017 at 3:08 pm
RE: The Holy Bible - fact or fiction? - by TheRealJoeFish - March 27, 2017 at 4:17 pm
RE: The Holy Bible - fact or fiction? - by bennyboy - March 27, 2017 at 4:37 pm
RE: The Holy Bible - fact or fiction? - by Angrboda - March 28, 2017 at 11:51 am
RE: The Holy Bible - fact or fiction? - by Minimalist - March 28, 2017 at 12:06 pm
RE: The Holy Bible - fact or fiction? - by LastPoet - March 28, 2017 at 12:13 pm
RE: The Holy Bible - fact or fiction? - by brewer - March 28, 2017 at 7:11 pm
RE: The Holy Bible - fact or fiction? - by Minimalist - March 28, 2017 at 7:54 pm

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