RE: Atheists, what are the most convincing theist arguments you heard of?
March 26, 2017 at 5:42 pm
(March 26, 2017 at 1:10 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: The 2nd best argument is when you talk about virtues that supposedly the Creator cannot take, because he doesn't have the limitations of creation. Thus how can he be the source of all virtues or the embodiment of all perfections?
This was a strong argument.
The best argument is simply the assertion that struggled earned value is greater then value that was not struggled for. This is true almost universally, so it seems paradoxical.
Those shook my faith once upon a time till I disbelieved. But they are easily refuted now.
I really get tired of people of every religion, not just Muslims, but Christians and Jews and Hindus and Buddhists, missing one simple argument and always completely ignore it.
Take your "But they are easily refuted now" and ASK YOURSELF, not me, but yourself, would that same line work to convert you to another religion?
"But they are easily refuted now. Therefore the Christian God is the one real god" Does that line still make sense to you?
"But they are easily refuted now. Therefore the Jewish God Yahweh is the one real god" Does that still make sense to you?
"But they are easily refuted now. Therefore Buddha is the only real source for knowledge" Still make sense?
"But they are easily refuted now. Therefore the Hindu creator God Brahama is the one real god" Still make sense to you?
MK, every religion in the world argues both against "philosophy" and with "philosophy" and every religion in the world argues against science when it doesn't point to their club, and argues with science when they think it does.
Your attempt to "refute" does nothing for your position anymore than it does for anyone with a different religion.
Get in line, take a number.
