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What are your thoughts on Richard Dawkins?
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RE: What are your thoughts on Richard Dawkins?
(March 28, 2017 at 8:06 pm)Alasdair Ham Wrote: I don't see how it's possible to approach emotions objectively or to control one's will by willpower at all. I don't see how it make sense without free will and I don't see how free will makes sense either.

That doesn't mean it's pseudoscientific. That means you don't see how it's possible. There's a difference.

The problem many people have with understanding things like mindfulness is, in my opinion, the fact that those sorts of mental experiences are ineffable -- they have no words to describe them exactly, and we can only approach the experience with language tangentially. I don't know if that's the case with you.

In an odd irony, you kinda have to be willing to listen to your feelings in order to be able to let them go.

If it doesn't work for you, okay, it doesn't work for you. But calling it "pseudoscientific" by implication calls people who are able to use it -- myself included -- irrational. And I don't think that's the case, necessarily

(March 28, 2017 at 8:06 pm)Alasdair Ham Wrote: The only thing that trying does is stress me out by expecting results from trying to control the uncontrollable. One cannot will the will itself when the will itself is already willed.

This is why I don't think you understand the process. It's not about controlling the feelings, at all. It's about observing them objectively, and understanding that while our emotions are a part of us, we are not our emotions.

(March 28, 2017 at 8:16 pm)ma5t3r0fpupp3t5 Wrote: Religion can't even explain the answers it posits, while science at least can. In some sense the only answer you get from religion is actually "I don't know" hidden under a fancy supernatural wrapping.

Exactly: God works in mysterious ways.

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RE: What are your thoughts on Richard Dawkins? - by Aroura - March 26, 2017 at 10:53 pm
RE: What are your thoughts on Richard Dawkins? - by Cephus - March 27, 2017 at 10:13 am
RE: What are your thoughts on Richard Dawkins? - by brewer - March 27, 2017 at 10:29 am
RE: What are your thoughts on Richard Dawkins? - by Sal - March 28, 2017 at 6:04 am
RE: What are your thoughts on Richard Dawkins? - by Thumpalumpacus - March 28, 2017 at 8:43 pm
RE: What are your thoughts on Richard Dawkins? - by Alex K - March 28, 2017 at 12:34 pm
RE: What are your thoughts on Richard Dawkins? - by Isis - March 28, 2017 at 11:09 pm
RE: What are your thoughts on Richard Dawkins? - by Alexmahone - November 29, 2017 at 12:44 pm
RE: What are your thoughts on Richard Dawkins? - by Succubus - November 29, 2017 at 11:52 pm
RE: What are your thoughts on Richard Dawkins? - by Grandizer - November 30, 2017 at 1:10 am
RE: What are your thoughts on Richard Dawkins? - by Brian37 - November 30, 2017 at 4:21 pm
RE: What are your thoughts on Richard Dawkins? - by Brian37 - November 30, 2017 at 5:54 pm
RE: What are your thoughts on Richard Dawkins? - by Brian37 - November 30, 2017 at 6:17 pm
RE: What are your thoughts on Richard Dawkins? - by Angrboda - November 30, 2017 at 6:32 pm
RE: What are your thoughts on Richard Dawkins? - by DLJ - December 1, 2017 at 5:16 am
RE: What are your thoughts on Richard Dawkins? - by SaStrike - November 30, 2017 at 6:17 pm
RE: What are your thoughts on Richard Dawkins? - by Cod - November 30, 2017 at 6:20 pm
RE: What are your thoughts on Richard Dawkins? - by Brian37 - November 30, 2017 at 6:35 pm
RE: What are your thoughts on Richard Dawkins? - by Cod - November 30, 2017 at 6:50 pm
RE: What are your thoughts on Richard Dawkins? - by Brian37 - November 30, 2017 at 7:08 pm
RE: What are your thoughts on Richard Dawkins? - by Cod - December 1, 2017 at 7:02 am

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