(March 28, 2017 at 10:29 pm)Alasdair Ham Wrote:(March 28, 2017 at 8:43 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: That doesn't mean it's pseudoscientific. That means you don't see how it's possible. There's a difference.
No I'm saying that subjectivity can't be studied objectively so it can't be scientific.
Qualia is untouchable by science.
... and that still doesn't doesn't make it pseudoscientific, because it doesn't pretend to be definitive across all people.
(March 28, 2017 at 10:29 pm)Alasdair Ham Wrote:Quote:This is why I don't think you understand the process. It's not about controlling the feelings, at all. It's about observing them objectively, and understanding that while our emotions are a part of us, we are not our emotions.
I already factored all that in when I said I know it's not about controlling things it's about accepting them and observing them. But then I then said if we have no control over our own accepting and observing those things then it's pointless trying to learn how to do something when we have no control over it.
... and that's the thing: we do have control over how we observe and accept things. Simply because you cannot do that doesn't mean it cannot be done. "We" is not encompassing; you cannot speak for those of us who use mindfulness to find balance.