RE: Deadliest religion ever?
March 29, 2017 at 10:55 am
(This post was last modified: March 29, 2017 at 11:06 am by Edwardo Piet.)
(March 29, 2017 at 10:13 am)ukatheist Wrote: The meme says that atheists don't stone people so the implication is that non-atheists i.e. theists do. I don't think it is unreasonable to infer that, since the only difference between theists and atheists as a group are that theists believe in god(s), that this is in fact in reference to religious beliefs. Perhaps Hammy was incorrect to restrict this to just the bible but possibly you're being a little over-pedantic here Paul?
I agree with all of that and he definitely is.
Biblical stoning certainly isn't the only kind of religious stoning because it applies to Islam too but all 3 abrahamic religions originate from the old testament where biblical stoning started... I think this is clearly a meme that dates back to the 'new atheist' wave that was highly influenced by Dawkins book The God Delusion (which I've read repeatedly) and the evilness of the Old Testament and biblical stoning is certainly something Dawkins bangs on and on about in it.
And yeah you wouldn't put it in these words but I think Paul is being a pedantic tosser and intentionally dense cunt


He's indeed a prick. He does this. He's not this dumb but he does play this dumb.
(March 29, 2017 at 10:13 am)ukatheist Wrote: As to whether it is factually true, idk, I doubt judaism invented stoning, so likely used as a killing method by earlier religions/nations/non-religious groups. According to wiki, it was used as an execution method by the Aztecs too. I also think that there are likely many religions that didn't/don't use it, so singling out atheists as morally superior just because they (possibly) haven't/don't stone people is a bit disingenuous. Plenty of atheists support the death penalty to this day. Person still ends up dead, does it make a huge amount of difference if one is seemingly more 'humane' than the other?
Yeah I agree Judaism definitely didn't start stoning to death as a punishment but I doubt the meme is referring to anything earlier than that.
It could be actually, yeah. But the point still stands that no one was ever 'stoned to death' by an atheist makes sense in a non-literal-minded-fuckface way and the scare quotes are relevant (It's to say "this is tongue in cheek").
Quote:Fwiw I also hate that 'good people/evil people' quote and meme, since in my view good and evil are religious concepts - so it actually needs religion for any of them.
Your way of defining 'good/evil' altogether as a religious thing goes beyond just saying 'sin' doesn't exist. And I kind of like that approach actually. It's kind of cool of you. It's a type of nihilism without the emptiness that's definitely cool. I actually think that's kind of hip in an attractive/sexy/kind of hot way too.
Yeah I know I'm weird as fuck lol.
Quote:But in my experience meme's are usually technically inaccurate, after all they are just soundbites with pictures, so really not something to get all worked up about.
Yeah I agree the whole point is they're just catchy stuff and that meme is just making a tongue-in-cheek point and taking a stab at religion. It's not aiming to be technically accurate.