(April 3, 2017 at 12:12 pm)SteveII Wrote:(April 3, 2017 at 11:55 am)Faith No More Wrote: I'm confused. Are you saying that god's commands have always been moral but our obligations to obey them have changed?
No, we are to obey. We have a commandment that says not to murder. We have a question that asks it is okay to murder if God says so. I say, we already have instructions not to murder and God will not contradict it. The same question can be phrased with each of the 10 commandments. If you do, the question "If God said..." become silly. (No other Gods, honor father and mother, adultery, false witness, etc.).
If you are referring to Abraham/Isaac, God commanded him to offer his son to him. We have no idea what was going on on Abraham's head other than he was accustomed to having discussions with angels and God and had tremendous faith in God's promise to form a great nation from Isaac. Here is a thought exercise: what if the month before he had been given a commandment from God that he understood to be for all time: do not kill children? Is it possible that God would then command something contradictory? No, I don't think so.
No, you have an old book of claims. The real reason humans don't murder is evolutionary. Cooperation within a group fosters safety in numbers. Humans don't however have a problem murdering those of rival groups. Just like male lions will not kill their own cubs but will kill those of rivals.
We do kill out of self defense and we do kill in war. Your God does not reflect our modern western society it reflects the ignr ignorant tribal rival kingships of the times it was written. Our human empathy is why we have grown to ignore that nasty tribal book, and why we cherry pick it in the west to justify being more humane.
You worship a nasty bully of a character. A fictional character all be it, just that you haven't realized it yet.
