(April 5, 2017 at 7:41 am)Harry Nevis Wrote:(April 4, 2017 at 3:01 pm)SteveII Wrote: I do not think science is nonsense. I will be clearer for those that struggle: Christianity is on the rise across the world because it resonates with people. Atheists think they have a compelling message. They either suck at getting their message out, or, it is not as good of a message as they think (or both).
People like GodlessHeatheness think that Christianity has not been answering all these objections for centuries and that somehow "science" will somehow shine through and illuminate the ignorant. That has simply not been the case (or is expected to). Most Christians do not fear science or any knowledge we can attain from many disciplines.
Of course christianity is compelling. It's designed to be. It's no different than a sales pitch. It costs you nothing, and, at least in America, you don't have to think about it or change you behaviour.[1] You can keep all of your bigotries and prejudices because you can find a passage in the bible to support practically anything. You have a whole new group of people to look down on and judge. And you get to claim persecution on top of it! [2]
Atheism is just facing up to reality. It's not that easy for many people to do. As far as
illuminating the ignorant", maybe you give the observation that there is no god too much credit. And it seems not many believers even understand what science is. [3]
1. That indicates that you don't distinguish between a nominal Christian and a practicing Christian. A Christian should be seeking to (all from the NT):
a. Has an undiluted devotion to Jesus.
b. Pursues a biblically informed view of the world.
c. Is intentional and disciplined in seeking God's direction in life.
d. Worships, and has a spirit of continuous repentance.
e. Builds healthy, reciprocal human relationships.
f. Knows how to engage the larger world where faith is not necessarily understood.
g. Is aware of personal "call" and unique competencies.
h. Is merciful and generous.
i. Appreciates that suffering is part of faithfulness to Jesus.
j. Is eager and ready to express the content of his faith.
k. Overflows with thankfulness.
l. Has a passion for reconciliation.
From http://www.christianitytoday.com/pastors...stian.html
2. You are describing decidedly non-christian responses to external factors.
3. Your complaint with with a small group of people and NOT Christianity. Your reasoning is flawed: fallacy of composition.
