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Everything I know is a lie!
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RE: Everything I know is a lie!
(April 5, 2017 at 8:25 am)SteveII Wrote:
(April 5, 2017 at 7:41 am)Harry Nevis Wrote: Of course christianity is compelling.  It's designed to be.  It's no different than a sales pitch.  It costs you nothing, and, at least in America, you don't have to think about it or change you behaviour.[1]  You can keep all of your bigotries and prejudices because you can find a passage in the bible to support practically anything.  You have a whole new group of people to look down on and judge.  And you get to claim persecution on top of it! [2]

Atheism is just facing up to reality.  It's not that easy for many people to do.  As far as
illuminating the ignorant", maybe you give the observation that there is no god too much credit.  And it seems not many believers even understand what science is. [3]

1. That indicates that you don't distinguish between a nominal Christian and a practicing Christian. A Christian should be seeking to (all from the NT): 

a. Has an undiluted devotion to Jesus. 
b. Pursues a biblically informed view of the world.
c. Is intentional and disciplined in seeking God's direction in life.
d. Worships, and has a spirit of continuous repentance.
e. Builds healthy, reciprocal human relationships.
f. Knows how to engage the larger world where faith is not necessarily understood.
g. Is aware of personal "call" and unique competencies.
h. Is merciful and generous.
i. Appreciates that suffering is part of faithfulness to Jesus.
j. Is eager and ready to express the content of his faith. 
k. Overflows with thankfulness.
l. Has a passion for reconciliation.

From http://www.christianitytoday.com/pastors...stian.html

2. You are describing decidedly non-christian responses to external factors.

3. Your complaint with with a small group of people and NOT Christianity. Your reasoning is flawed: fallacy of composition.

No, my complaint is with 1. american christianity, which seems to be just a way to justify hatred, bigotry, greed and ego, and 2. people like you who decide who are the "real" christians by cherry picking the bible.

(April 5, 2017 at 12:04 pm)Lek Wrote:
(April 4, 2017 at 12:12 pm)Harry Nevis Wrote: Isn't that a contradiction?

Not at all.  If you want to be objective you should consider both sides to an argument.

Christians are not objective about the bible.  Atheists are.
"The last superstition of the human mind is the superstition that religion in itself is a good thing."  - Samuel Porter Putnam
 
           

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Messages In This Thread
Everything I know is a lie! - by godlessheatheness - March 25, 2017 at 2:02 am
RE: Everything I know is a lie! - by pocaracas - March 25, 2017 at 2:53 am
RE: Everything I know is a lie! - by Minimalist - March 25, 2017 at 2:58 am
RE: Everything I know is a lie! - by Angrboda - March 25, 2017 at 9:33 am
RE: Everything I know is a lie! - by brewer - March 25, 2017 at 9:45 am
RE: Everything I know is a lie! - by godlessheatheness - March 25, 2017 at 10:16 am
RE: Everything I know is a lie! - by brewer - March 25, 2017 at 1:23 pm
RE: Everything I know is a lie! - by godlessheatheness - March 25, 2017 at 1:56 pm
RE: Everything I know is a lie! - by brewer - March 25, 2017 at 2:04 pm
RE: Everything I know is a lie! - by Alex K - March 25, 2017 at 4:43 pm
RE: Everything I know is a lie! - by godlessheatheness - March 25, 2017 at 5:43 pm
RE: Everything I know is a lie! - by Alex K - March 25, 2017 at 5:44 pm
RE: Everything I know is a lie! - by Lek - April 3, 2017 at 5:29 pm
RE: Everything I know is a lie! - by Harry Nevis - April 4, 2017 at 12:12 pm
RE: Everything I know is a lie! - by Lek - April 5, 2017 at 12:04 pm
RE: Everything I know is a lie! - by SteveII - April 4, 2017 at 12:07 pm
RE: Everything I know is a lie! - by Harry Nevis - April 4, 2017 at 1:43 pm
RE: Everything I know is a lie! - by SteveII - April 4, 2017 at 3:01 pm
RE: Everything I know is a lie! - by Harry Nevis - April 5, 2017 at 7:41 am
RE: Everything I know is a lie! - by SteveII - April 5, 2017 at 8:25 am
RE: Everything I know is a lie! - by Harry Nevis - April 5, 2017 at 2:02 pm
RE: Everything I know is a lie! - by SteveII - April 5, 2017 at 3:43 pm
RE: Everything I know is a lie! - by downbeatplumb - April 5, 2017 at 2:40 pm
RE: Everything I know is a lie! - by Lek - April 5, 2017 at 3:34 pm
RE: Everything I know is a lie! - by downbeatplumb - April 6, 2017 at 1:07 pm
RE: Everything I know is a lie! - by Lek - April 6, 2017 at 2:20 pm
RE: Everything I know is a lie! - by Brian37 - April 6, 2017 at 2:46 pm
RE: Everything I know is a lie! - by godlessheatheness - April 4, 2017 at 12:45 pm
RE: Everything I know is a lie! - by John V - April 4, 2017 at 6:15 pm
RE: Everything I know is a lie! - by godlessheatheness - April 4, 2017 at 6:46 pm
RE: Everything I know is a lie! - by Brian37 - April 5, 2017 at 9:16 am
RE: Everything I know is a lie! - by Drich - April 5, 2017 at 2:12 pm

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