(April 9, 2017 at 2:46 am)Grandizer Wrote: From the second link you provided, you said the following:
Quote:This is a difficult topic for me. I think perhaps it's true value needs a designer/creator/eternal source, but there is nothing wrong with acting in hope there is a higher value to us, even if it we are not sure there is value.
In other words, living according to hoped fantasy, is perhaps our last hope, if there is no way to know we have value.
We can hope we do have a soul and act is we are the same person.
There is nothing wrong with hope. We can hope we do have an objective value were are not aware of.
We can act according to that hoped fantasy. And there would be nothing wrong with that.
So what do you want me to get out of this exactly?
Whatever the point you're making, it must be pointed out that suffering a crisis because of a lack of belief in X does not logically mean that X exists. Nor does "X ought to exist" logically mean that "X exists".
If you want to read the thread do so, if you don't, just let me know you don't want to read it.