(April 10, 2017 at 11:05 am)Faith No More Wrote:(April 9, 2017 at 5:35 am)hopey Wrote: God acts in many ways to bring salvation. However many of those things you reason away. NDE's as an example, I know of occasions where God Himself has spoken to people on deaths door, giving them salvation, even letting them return with a message. However there are tons of atheists out there who reason it away with their logic. I also have seen many minor, and some larger miracles in my life, but when I tell them to people often they call me a lier. It is not that I am lying. God is willing to show Himself to us, but we must be prepared to listen. There are always two arguments the devils, and God's, our destiny rests in which one we follow, and choose.
It's funny how all of these people with NDE's that spoke to god and see miracles can't agree on who god actually is or what "he" wants. He's supposed to be the arbiter of objective truth, but the many different versions of this deity that have been dreamed up prove that interpreting him is entirely subjective. Believers love to preach to atheists about the undeniable nature of god, but they can't even agree among themselves what that nature actually is. If god is so obvious as you guys claim, why all of the disagreement?
You guys are putting the cart before the horse and should first be trying to agree on what this god is. Get back to us when you all have a single, cohesive narrative. All you have now is a jumbled mess of religions and schisms that can't agree, which is precisely what one would expect if god only existed in the minds of the believers.
Oh, and I won't call you a liar. You could be insane or just not very bright.
One of the primary reasons for discrepancies in stories is not so much the content, but the person who has the experience interoperates what they see through their own understanding. As an example I was met by a guy who almost went to hell, he floated over it, but he was drawn away from it by a light. He did not understand what he saw, knew nothing of hell, and started to research god's of light, he came to the conclusion the light must have been a hindu diety that was composed of light. The reality is that people who enter the light, Christians, meet Jesus. I have met another man who almost went to hell, he went down and felt the heat on rocks, before being drawn back to his body by an angel with a sword.
You one day will be taking the same journey and it pays to return to Jesus before you do.