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Happy Easter!
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RE: Happy Easter!
(April 15, 2017 at 11:27 am)MysticKnight Wrote: So if a child says God is three, he is a disbeliever?

The verse itself is generalizing the people of the book of that time and place, and suratal Bayana shows they would not be separated until their came to them the clear proof which was the Messenger reciting them the signs of God.... 

Why does the verse say "the disbelievers from them", it's to show it's generalizing that most of those who say God is three or Jesus is God in that region, now have been reminded and know better, because as Suratal Bayana clarifies:






The division is when a clear proof comes and they cannot be divided from the believers without clear proof.

And the clear proof is not a book, but a Messenger who teaches the book, and so at this time, when the final leader of humanity, the proof of God is hidden, and the book is taught stupidly and dumbly by the supposed believers of the book..... excuse me for not judging people to disbelieve in the clear proof (which is hidden).

And to acknowledge that it is hidden, read Suratal Raad, which talks about the sign with respect to Mohammad being one who can only warn while there is a Guide for every people and another verse saying "the hiding (of the sign) is for God, so wait, we too are waiting"  meaning, most of the world even during Mohammad time didn't have the clear proof.

Until the clear proof is manifest to the whole world, I will not judge people to be disbelievers, neither Christians neither Atheists neither Hindus....

Lastly, the Quran predicts all Jews and Christians will believe in Jesus before his death, so don't give this crap that they are not people of the book any longer.
In this world; there are two types of speech:
1-Bullshit
2-Straight to the point
Bullshit usually takes a long time to explain; while straight to the point is straight to the point!
Let me give you an example. Hustlers use bullshit to distract you from a certain point, which is your bag or wallet, then rob the shit out of you. 
So don't be a hustler; please.
-The point: In Islam, whoever says Jesus is God, is a disbeliever, according to this verse:
Quote:https://atheistforums.org/thread-48601-p...pid1541224

Sura 5, Page 110, The Quran:

(17) Surely, in disbelief are they who say that Allah is the messiah, son of Maryam (Mary) . Say (O Muhammad صلى الله عليه وسلم): "Who then has the least power against Allah, if He were to destroy the messiah, son of Maryam (Mary), his mother, and all those who are on the earth together?" And to Allah belongs the dominion of the heavens and the earth, and all that is between them. He creates what He wills. And Allah is Able to do all things. 

Answer to this verse.
Respect the mind of the readers.
Don't hustle. You suck at it.
See a psychologist.
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Messages In This Thread
Happy Easter! - by MysticKnight - April 14, 2017 at 2:34 pm
RE: Happy Easter! - by The Grand Nudger - April 14, 2017 at 2:40 pm
RE: Happy Easter! - by MysticKnight - April 14, 2017 at 2:46 pm
RE: Happy Easter! - by LastPoet - April 14, 2017 at 3:56 pm
RE: Happy Easter! - by Catholic_Lady - April 14, 2017 at 2:43 pm
RE: Happy Easter! - by brewer - April 14, 2017 at 3:01 pm
RE: Happy Easter! - by Fake Messiah - April 14, 2017 at 3:28 pm
RE: Happy Easter! - by MysticKnight - April 14, 2017 at 3:44 pm
RE: Happy Easter! - by Jesster - April 14, 2017 at 3:34 pm
RE: Happy Easter! - by Isis - April 14, 2017 at 3:37 pm
RE: Happy Easter! - by Aroura - April 14, 2017 at 3:40 pm
RE: Happy Easter! - by MysticKnight - April 14, 2017 at 3:47 pm
RE: Happy Easter! - by Athene - April 14, 2017 at 4:32 pm
RE: Happy Easter! - by Astreja - April 15, 2017 at 1:55 am
RE: Happy Easter! - by c172 - April 14, 2017 at 3:43 pm
RE: Happy Easter! - by Jesster - April 14, 2017 at 3:45 pm
RE: Happy Easter! - by Jesster - April 14, 2017 at 3:58 pm
RE: Happy Easter! - by MysticKnight - April 14, 2017 at 4:03 pm
RE: Happy Easter! - by LastPoet - April 14, 2017 at 4:16 pm
RE: Happy Easter! - by Aroura - April 14, 2017 at 11:32 pm
RE: Happy Easter! - by Isis - April 14, 2017 at 11:53 pm
RE: Happy Easter! - by Jesster - April 14, 2017 at 4:05 pm
RE: Happy Easter! - by MysticKnight - April 14, 2017 at 4:06 pm
RE: Happy Easter! - by Athene - April 14, 2017 at 4:09 pm
RE: Happy Easter! - by Minimalist - April 14, 2017 at 4:14 pm
RE: Happy Easter! - by LastPoet - April 14, 2017 at 4:18 pm
RE: Happy Easter! - by MysticKnight - April 14, 2017 at 4:21 pm
RE: Happy Easter! - by LastPoet - April 14, 2017 at 4:42 pm
RE: Happy Easter! - by MysticKnight - April 14, 2017 at 4:49 pm
RE: Happy Easter! - by LastPoet - April 14, 2017 at 5:05 pm
RE: Happy Easter! - by Catholic_Lady - April 14, 2017 at 4:22 pm
RE: Happy Easter! - by MysticKnight - April 14, 2017 at 4:27 pm
RE: Happy Easter! - by Catholic_Lady - April 14, 2017 at 4:40 pm
RE: Happy Easter! - by MysticKnight - April 14, 2017 at 4:44 pm
RE: Happy Easter! - by pocaracas - April 14, 2017 at 4:23 pm
RE: Happy Easter! - by emjay - April 14, 2017 at 4:47 pm
RE: Happy Easter! - by Catholic_Lady - April 14, 2017 at 4:52 pm
RE: Happy Easter! - by emjay - April 14, 2017 at 4:56 pm
RE: Happy Easter! - by MysticKnight - April 14, 2017 at 5:00 pm
RE: Happy Easter! - by emjay - April 14, 2017 at 5:11 pm
RE: Happy Easter! - by MysticKnight - April 14, 2017 at 5:13 pm
RE: Happy Easter! - by emjay - April 14, 2017 at 5:26 pm
RE: Happy Easter! - by MysticKnight - April 14, 2017 at 5:27 pm
RE: Happy Easter! - by emjay - April 14, 2017 at 6:56 pm
RE: Happy Easter! - by pocaracas - April 14, 2017 at 7:01 pm
RE: Happy Easter! - by Jesster - April 14, 2017 at 4:48 pm
RE: Happy Easter! - by MysticKnight - April 14, 2017 at 4:50 pm
RE: Happy Easter! - by Jesster - April 14, 2017 at 4:52 pm
RE: Happy Easter! - by WinterHold - April 14, 2017 at 5:06 pm
RE: Happy Easter! - by LastPoet - April 14, 2017 at 5:15 pm
RE: Happy Easter! - by WinterHold - April 14, 2017 at 6:29 pm
RE: Happy Easter! - by MysticKnight - April 15, 2017 at 11:27 am
RE: Happy Easter! - by WinterHold - April 15, 2017 at 12:23 pm
RE: Happy Easter! - by Catholic_Lady - April 15, 2017 at 3:07 pm
RE: Happy Easter! - by MysticKnight - April 14, 2017 at 5:20 pm
RE: Happy Easter! - by Catholic_Lady - April 14, 2017 at 4:54 pm
RE: Happy Easter! - by Jesster - April 14, 2017 at 4:56 pm
RE: Happy Easter! - by Catholic_Lady - April 14, 2017 at 4:58 pm
RE: Happy Easter! - by LastPoet - April 14, 2017 at 5:11 pm
RE: Happy Easter! - by emjay - April 14, 2017 at 4:50 pm
RE: Happy Easter! - by Alex K - April 14, 2017 at 5:08 pm
RE: Happy Easter! - by Alex K - April 14, 2017 at 5:16 pm
RE: Happy Easter! - by Catholic_Lady - April 14, 2017 at 6:35 pm
RE: Happy Easter! - by WinterHold - April 14, 2017 at 6:55 pm
RE: Happy Easter! - by The Grand Nudger - April 14, 2017 at 7:10 pm
RE: Happy Easter! - by WinterHold - April 14, 2017 at 7:27 pm
RE: Happy Easter! - by The Grand Nudger - April 14, 2017 at 7:31 pm
RE: Happy Easter! - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - April 14, 2017 at 7:35 pm
RE: Happy Easter! - by WinterHold - April 14, 2017 at 7:46 pm
RE: Happy Easter! - by The Grand Nudger - April 14, 2017 at 7:57 pm
RE: Happy Easter! - by WinterHold - April 14, 2017 at 8:18 pm
RE: Happy Easter! - by Jesster - April 14, 2017 at 11:59 pm
RE: Happy Easter! - by The Grand Nudger - April 15, 2017 at 4:51 am
RE: Happy Easter! - by Fake Messiah - April 15, 2017 at 5:12 am
RE: Happy Easter! - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - April 15, 2017 at 6:02 am
RE: Happy Easter! - by MysticKnight - April 15, 2017 at 12:43 pm
RE: Happy Easter! - by WinterHold - April 15, 2017 at 1:50 pm
RE: Happy Easter! - by MysticKnight - April 15, 2017 at 1:59 pm
RE: Happy Easter! - by WinterHold - April 15, 2017 at 2:29 pm
RE: Happy Easter! - by MysticKnight - April 15, 2017 at 4:04 pm
RE: Happy Easter! - by Alex K - April 15, 2017 at 5:26 pm
RE: Happy Easter! - by Catholic_Lady - April 15, 2017 at 5:38 pm
RE: Happy Easter! - by pocaracas - April 15, 2017 at 6:01 pm
RE: Happy Easter! - by The Grand Nudger - April 15, 2017 at 5:43 pm
RE: Happy Easter! - by WinterHold - April 15, 2017 at 6:28 pm
RE: Happy Easter! - by The Grand Nudger - April 15, 2017 at 6:29 pm

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