(July 15, 2011 at 2:09 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: VOID..
You never specified DS until I mentioned it.
But that's not what you said, is it? You accused me of not making it clear until the post before last. Not only did my second and third post tell you in no uncertain terms that it was exactly what the argument was about, but my OP was abundantly clear in what It was I was addressing, that the notion of a simple God is incompatible with the notion of a plan given the nature of information - I specifically said I was addressing the idea of simplicity in regards to the Christian God, the name given to that concept is none other than Divine Simplicity, so if that was somehow lost on you it means you thought I was talking about some other notion of a simple God - If that is the case then I would love to know what this other concept is, because I've never heard of it.
Quote:There are expositions of the idea from a lot of perspectives on the linked wikipedia page.
I couldn't give a damn about the wikipedia page, It says nothing about how the concept of divine simplicity is compatible with the nature of information.
Quote:Where you've addressed the subject it's hard to tell which aspect you're addressing. You seem to be talking about the philosophical angle (divorced from religion).
It's not divorced from religion, It was proposed by religious theists (mostly Christians) to defend their religious beliefs, they wanted to show that the concept of divine simplicity is coherent and doesn't contradict their claims, what I was trying to show that in regards to information (something that I have not seen addressed) the concept does not work - Information, by it's very nature, contradicts the notion of simplicity.
Quote:I'm talking about a personal discussion between Ryft and myself in which he agreed that you didn't understand Xtian DS as you were attempting to ridicule once more back then.
Go show me where on that previous argument I ridiculed that which I was trying to show logically impossible. Not only did I not attempt to ridicule it at all, but when shown that my argument failed in regards to time and omniscience I accepted that my argument had a fatal flaw.
Quote:I really can't be arsed with your empty posturing. You only seem to be able to motivate yourself to engage when you're worked up. Present you with reasonable conversation and you wimp out. I'm sorry VOID you're going to have to carry on without me.
If you truly gave a shit about having a reasonable conversation you wouldn't have completely ignored the bulk of the questions I asked of you, nor would you have gone this whole time without directly addressing the nature of information.
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