(May 9, 2017 at 3:24 pm)alpha male Wrote:(May 9, 2017 at 1:52 pm)Jehanne Wrote: Which is just another way of saying that there aren't any.
When someone says they don't find the evidence for miracles compelling, and so they don't believe them, I get that.
When someone says that they don't believe in miracles due to a factor that's present in the definition of miracle itself, that's a poor argument.
(May 9, 2017 at 1:58 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote: By definition they go against the way the universe works. there has never been one verifiable example of that actually happening.
Once there's verifiable examples of something happening, that something is part of the way the universe works, even if we don't yet understand it.
Yeah, you gotta keep those definitions vague enough to give the apologists some wriggle room.
"The last superstition of the human mind is the superstition that religion in itself is a good thing." - Samuel Porter Putnam
