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morality is subjective and people don't have free will
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RE: morality is subjective and people don't have free will
(May 15, 2017 at 4:24 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote:
(May 15, 2017 at 4:09 pm)mh.brewer Wrote:  
If morals have grey areas then they are not objective/absolute.

By that, I just mean they are dependent on circumstances, but that they are still objective within those circumstances.

Example:

The morality of yelling at someone is a grey area. 

It is objectively wrong to yell at a random person simply because you are having a bad day and need someone to take your anger out on, even though the person has nothing to do with why you are upset. 

It is objectively not wrong to yell at someone you just caught abusing your child.


I wonder what exactly you feel adding "objectively" here adds to what you're saying.  How are these different?

"It is not wrong to yell at someone you just caught abusing your child."

"It is objectively not wrong to yell at someone you just caught abusing your child."

"It is certainly not wrong to yell at someone you just caught abusing your child."

"It is in every sense not wrong to yell at someone you just caught abusing your child."


Is an assertion that something is humorous or beautiful likewise enhanced by adding that it is "objectively" so?

"The Mona Lisa painting is objectively beautiful".

"That George Carlin was one objectively funny guy."


Also, why is your standing up for a value you think is "objectively" correct supposed to have more value than my standing up for a subjective value I hold which I recognize not everyone may share?  Something about this feels off to me.  Do see what I mean?
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RE: morality is subjective and people don't have free will - by Whateverist - May 16, 2017 at 4:14 am

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