RE: morality is subjective and people don't have free will
May 16, 2017 at 10:27 am
(This post was last modified: May 16, 2017 at 10:29 am by Edwardo Piet.)
(May 16, 2017 at 10:23 am)mh.brewer Wrote:(May 16, 2017 at 10:21 am)SteveII Wrote: THat does not change the fact that redefining free will so that it is impossible for a person to have it is not proof that a person does not have free will.
The definition of omniscient god eliminates the possibility of free will. Why do you have a problem with other peoples definitions?
It doesn't eliminate the possibility in the compatabilist sense. But the compatabilist sense is fucking stupid and fucking idiots (i.e. 99% of people) make logically incompetent equivocations rather regularly.
The compatabilist definition of free will is basically just the legal or social definition. It's a construct. It's about holding people responsible because it's better for society in practice even though the truth of the matter metaphysically is the fact that no one can ever do otherwise in precisely the same circumstances. The incompatabilists are right. The compatabilists believe exactly the same thing as the incompatabilists but choose to loosen their definition of free will and merely redefine it. What the compatabilists have is a vacuous label of "free will" added to exactly the same conclusions.