(May 16, 2017 at 10:50 am)mh.brewer Wrote:(May 16, 2017 at 10:47 am)Alasdair Ham Wrote: I think all arguments for "free will" are nonsense.
If determinism is true then all actions are determined by prior causes stretching all the way back to the first cause/the big bang/the singularity.
The whole idea of "independent actions" (as in, actions independent from causation) is just hocus pocus.
Determinism entails exactly the same thing for exactly the same reasons.
And all philosophical libertarians also refuse to admit.
I've already seen you tap dancing when you speak of our "independent actions" being independent from causation. We're human, not magic.
That's exactly what compatabilists do with free will, too. They attempt to avoid the classic problem of free will by redefining the terms rather than addressing the question.
Sam Harris is right: Compatabilism resembles theology.
Isn't this your masturbation time?
It's always my masturbation time.