morality is subjective and people don't have free will

[Edwardo Piet]

Harm reduction is the basis for most morality in most society. That does not make it objectively correct,

It doesn't make it ontologically objectively correct.

but at least it has a testable basis that makes sense.

What's not objective about a testable basis? Isn't science all about having a testable basis?




The standards of objectivity that many people hold to objective morality are standards of objectivity that no branch of science can meet.












P.S. I think we found something we disagree on.

See here, and read it thoroughly (in your own time and only if you want to): https://www.samharris.org/blog/item/clar...-landscape

And perhaps you will change your mind

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I think all arguments for "free will" are nonsense.

The whole idea of "independent actions" (as in, actions independent from causation) is just hocus pocus.

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Of course you do. It gives you the perfect excuse for your behavior. Why even try to change?

You just completely ignored my arguments, quoted me out of context and conflated determinism with fatalism. Congratulations.

Believing we're independent from causality is akin to believing we have magical powers or souls. As a fellow atheist I hope you realize the irrationality of that metaphysical conclusion of yours.