morality is subjective and people don't have free will

[Angrboda]

This is an interesting thread. I appreciate everyone sharing their views. I'm surprised to see that so far Aroura has been the only one who has the 2 positions I presented in the OP. I was under the impression that most people here held both of those beliefs.

I endorse both viewpoints, but my reply appears to have gone unnoticed.

https://atheistforums.org/thread-48959-p...pid1553154