(May 17, 2017 at 5:19 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: People on the forum I posted are describing free will as the ability to make moral choices. I think that's the best and simplest way to put it. Of course, in order to do that we need to have a certain level of sentience, intelligence, and rational thought. Not sure if animals or any future machine have enough of all those things to attain the ability to make moral choices.
So picking the type of pizza you eat has nothing to do with it, and isn't a demonstration of free will, then.
Would you agree that the only free will you have has to do with moral choices, and all your other choices are determined, then? That is what it sounds like you are saying.
Also, the idea that animals do not have morals is False, as has already been linked.
The bear in the hypothetical forum example posed is a perfect example. The bear might kill the animal if the bear is hungry. But the EXACT same scenario applies to a human. A hungry human will chose to eat another weak animal. A cared for animal will suddenly care about other animals. Hippo's saving baby ducks, anyone?
It is only when animals are not driven by base needs that they have the ability to worry much about morals, and mammals all show this. Elephants, bears, pigs, apes.
This is explained through Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs (Which my husband recently studied, his minor is in psychology, so we get a lot of this kind of discussion at home).
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