morality is subjective and people don't have free will

[Amarok]

On this thread, you've been very disrespectful of me personally and are now resorting to insults.

If randomness means that anything can happen for no reason at all, then yes, it does undermine scientific inquiry. If on the other hand we are talking about physical operations within certain parameters and the presumption that there is an underlying reason for why particular results manifest, then no.

I'll take that as an admission that your view has serious problems.

My use of that adage refers to the notion that an existential choice to believe something positive, like the efficacy of reason, is necessary in order to justify subsequent positive beliefs. Your version of skepticism crosses into nihilism. Perhaps the things you consider unintelligible appear that way to you because of your incoherent and self-defeating stance.

The universe is a mixture of chaos and order.  The existence of chaos defines the existence of order, and vice versa.  You want to champion half of that equation.  You wish away the chaos because the lack of control that implies scares you.  Departing from reason into a worldview based upon the mysterious interventions of a mysterious spook isn't making an existential choice, it's abandoning existence as it is for a fairy tale.  You want reality to be simpler and cleaner than it is.  You embrace the lie that it is.   Existence and reason are messy business and that bothers you.  Well, tough shit.  Get over it.  You haven't made a positive choice, investing in the efficacy of reason.  You've plastered over the reality with your wishful thinking.   And why?  Apparently the true face of reality bothers you.  Or maybe you're just following the primrose path that your investment in outdated metaphysics has led you to.   Either way, I don't care.  You are the enemy of reason, not its friend.

Indeed reason is messy and no amount of convenient mythology is going to change that Wooter needs to pull his head out