RE: The Trinity and Mary
May 19, 2017 at 6:11 am
(This post was last modified: May 19, 2017 at 6:13 am by Fake Messiah.)
OK let me further expand on the evidence that Christian Trinity is directly taken from earlier polytheist religions, like Capitoline Triad. Main thing is Trinity only makes sense in polytheist religions (where there are three different gods), while in so called monotheist Christianity it makes no sense at all (since it only has one god), so it's clear it was forced upon Christianity.
We can even try calling it forced marriage of Jewish one god religion and polytheism, because it really tortures Jewish religion of monotheism resulting that trinity in monotheism is beyond understanding. IT MAKES NO SENSE. If the trinity is indivisible, then Jesus, being also the Holy Ghost, must have had intercourse with his own mother in order to produce himself as the son. She being the daughter of God and Jesus being the son of God, she was also his sister.
And if not, then it is clear that Father, Son, and Holy Ghost, are three separate persons; thus the trinity cannot be a unity in one person. Or what happened to the whole universe when all three were dead? Who would have resurrected them?
Now I know there are some theologians that insist that we can not understand it because we have only human brains, but on the other hand it makes sense in polytheism where there are many gods.
The Trinity is defined as the belief that there is one God who has revealed Himself in three persons, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost, and these three persons are the one God. Now there is no evidence for that. Lek did mention that Jesus equated himself with YHWH, but I also inserted that far larger number of verses clearly show that Jesus did not consider himself to be God or God's equal. Another thing OT repeatedly says God is one, unique, a unity, a being without equals, divisions, or parts. For example, Deuteronomy 4:35 says, "The Lord he is God; there is none else beside him."
Also God himself stated in Genesis 6:3 that he would not abide in man or the flesh. He said, "My spirit shall not abide in man for ever, for he is flesh". Thus, Jesus could not be both man and God and be so forever, for that would violate this verse.
We can even try calling it forced marriage of Jewish one god religion and polytheism, because it really tortures Jewish religion of monotheism resulting that trinity in monotheism is beyond understanding. IT MAKES NO SENSE. If the trinity is indivisible, then Jesus, being also the Holy Ghost, must have had intercourse with his own mother in order to produce himself as the son. She being the daughter of God and Jesus being the son of God, she was also his sister.
And if not, then it is clear that Father, Son, and Holy Ghost, are three separate persons; thus the trinity cannot be a unity in one person. Or what happened to the whole universe when all three were dead? Who would have resurrected them?
Now I know there are some theologians that insist that we can not understand it because we have only human brains, but on the other hand it makes sense in polytheism where there are many gods.
The Trinity is defined as the belief that there is one God who has revealed Himself in three persons, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost, and these three persons are the one God. Now there is no evidence for that. Lek did mention that Jesus equated himself with YHWH, but I also inserted that far larger number of verses clearly show that Jesus did not consider himself to be God or God's equal. Another thing OT repeatedly says God is one, unique, a unity, a being without equals, divisions, or parts. For example, Deuteronomy 4:35 says, "The Lord he is God; there is none else beside him."
Also God himself stated in Genesis 6:3 that he would not abide in man or the flesh. He said, "My spirit shall not abide in man for ever, for he is flesh". Thus, Jesus could not be both man and God and be so forever, for that would violate this verse.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
