morality is subjective and people don't have free will

[Mister Agenda]

The universe is a mixture of chaos and order.  The existence of chaos defines the existence of order, and vice versa.  You want to champion half of that equation.  You wish away the chaos because the lack of control that implies scares you.  Departing from reason into a worldview based upon the mysterious interventions of a mysterious spook isn't making an existential choice, it's abandoning existence as it is for a fairy tale.  You want reality to be simpler and cleaner than it is.  You embrace the lie that it is.   Existence and reason are messy business and that bothers you.  Well, tough shit.  Get over it.  You haven't made a positive choice, investing in the efficacy of reason.  You've plastered over the reality with your wishful thinking.   And why?  Apparently the true face of reality bothers you.  Or maybe you're just following the primrose path that your investment in outdated metaphysics has led you to.   Either way, I don't care.  You are the enemy of reason, not its friend.

I can image pulling a pan from the dishwasher. When I hand it to my wife she’ll ask me if it is clean or dirty. If I reply that part of it is clean and part of it is dirty then I’m pretty sure she’ll tell me that that it’s a dirty pan. Other than that your thoughtless, incoherent rant deserves no reply.

If part of the pan is actually clean and part of the pan is actually dirty, your wife is wrong. It's fine for purposes of indicating that the pan requires more cleaning to be 'all clean', but it's certainly not 'all dirty' just because your wife says so as a shorthand for 'not clean to my standards'. Unless she has a Trump-like personality defect, if pressed she ought to be capable of acknowledging the fact that part of the pan is, indeed, clean.

You're bringing casual usage of language to a philosophical discussion like it's supposed to prove something and you're calling Jormungandr thoughtless and incoherent? Wow.

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That's what we're saying though lol. We're saying that most parents don't tell their 2 year olds about sin.  

But most of the ones who do are Christians.

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It just seems like some of you are trying to push this idea that Christian parents generally scare and traumatize their toddlers and very young children with deep talks about sinfulness and Hell, which simply isn't the case.

How many should it be before we're justified in thinking that it happens too much?