morality is subjective and people don't have free will

[Catholic_Lady]

No one asked you to answer for Original Sin, CL, you did that on your own.

Oh, I wasnt referring to that lol. I was referring to Mr agenda saying we should take some accountability for fundamentalist evangelicals who are teaching their kids about hell and/or using too much corporal punishment, etc.

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It isn't rational.  But I don't have any choice in my behaviors except that knowledge.  And since when did knowing you shouldn't get angry stop you from getting angry?  Anger is a nearly instant response, and one that is....not a choice. : I can try and control it with the tools I now have, but t's a potent emotion,not easily controlled.

You know that mentally ill people have no control (You did agree with this, correct?)  If a severely mentally ill person harms you or your family, your response will be hurt, anger, fear.  Even though they aren't rational responses for you either.  You might get over them faster than someone who thinks the person who harmed you chose it, but you also might not, because they still hurt you/your family.

Rationality is not reality.  We aren't vulcans.

Its not about knowing you shouldn't get angry. It's just that I wouldn't think you would in the first place. It's like how I said before, when I hear about an animal killing someone, I dont feel anger towards the animal bc I don't hold them morally responsible the way I do with people. When I hear about a person murdering someone, I do hold them morally responsible so i feel angry. (unless the person is innocent for reason of insanity or something, in which case they wouldn't be morally responsible and i wouldnt feel angry at them either)

But yeah, I haven't argued about anyone feeling angry regardless. I get that feelings arent voluntary. I was just explaining why I asked the question.