morality is subjective and people don't have free will

[Mister Agenda]

Mister agenda, just wanted to let you know that I'm reconsidering my response above.

I appreciate that. It's one of the reasons I respect you.

On one hand i think the world would be a better place if there was more accountability being taken so that things can be addressed and fixed.

On the other hand, I feel like it's not fair to ask someone who has nothing to do with something to have any sort of answer for it. Especially since we are talking about fundamentalist evangelicals, of which I am not.

Thoughts?

I think you're on board with a good answer: 'they shouldn't do that.'

I think the only area we really differ on in this matter is the extent of the problem. I know that less than 1% of Muslims are terrorists and that most Muslim terrorists come from the Middle East and North Africa but most Muslims don't actually live there. Non-Muslim Americans do about double the mass shootings as Muslim Americans do as a percentage of our population, they've got a legitimate case that although it is a problem it is rare and it's consistent to condemn it while saying 'it's only extremists'. It gets a little harder to justify saying that, I think, if you're a Muslim in Iraq, where there's a lot more sectarian violence, and more public support for it. A Muslim in that situation I think should condemn the violence and acknowledge that it's not just a few outliers at the root of it. It's also perfectly legitimate for them to say the extremists are 'Sunnis and not doing Islam right the way we Sufis do', but not try to evade the fact that it's pretty easy for violent extremists to find religious justification for their violence in the Quran, which wouldn't be as useful for justifying violence if it was considered a human document instead of a divine one.