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First talks of impeachment.
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RE: First talks of impeachment.
(May 19, 2017 at 7:40 pm)Luckie Wrote:
(May 19, 2017 at 6:48 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: Legally speaking, that is any time Congress has not declared war on another nation.

That'll be $15.

So the Iraq war wasn't a war?

I'll take "equivocation" for $500, Alex.

I clearly specified "legally" in my answer to Crunchy.

(May 19, 2017 at 8:57 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: I dunno, just because a de jour declaration of war hasn't occurred, certainly doesn't mean a de facto state of war does not exist.

Congress has the power to declare war.  Continuing to fund a de facto war makes that declaration evident whether it was made officially or not.

The point was that treason, legally, can only happen in times of war. And because in a court the term "time of war" also has a legal meaning, it's best to pay attention to that sort of thing.

You want to convict Trump of treason? You'll need to first show that a state of war exists.

Legally speaking, regarding Russia (which was the context of my comment), it does not.

Yes, wars happen without declarations. But we're talking law here, not fact.

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First talks of impeachment. - by Chad32 - May 18, 2017 at 9:12 am
RE: First talks of impeachment. - by dyresand - May 18, 2017 at 9:19 am
RE: First talks of impeachment. - by Chad32 - May 18, 2017 at 9:22 am
RE: First talks of impeachment. - by dyresand - May 18, 2017 at 11:39 am
RE: First talks of impeachment. - by brewer - May 18, 2017 at 9:24 am
RE: First talks of impeachment. - by Chad32 - May 18, 2017 at 9:42 am
RE: First talks of impeachment. - by Silver - May 18, 2017 at 10:16 am
RE: First talks of impeachment. - by Mystical - May 19, 2017 at 1:05 pm
RE: First talks of impeachment. - by Brian37 - May 19, 2017 at 1:40 pm
RE: First talks of impeachment. - by A Theist - May 18, 2017 at 11:37 am
RE: First talks of impeachment. - by downbeatplumb - May 18, 2017 at 12:54 pm
RE: First talks of impeachment. - by Pat Mustard - May 18, 2017 at 3:11 pm
RE: First talks of impeachment. - by Jackalope - May 18, 2017 at 11:39 am
RE: First talks of impeachment. - by Chad32 - May 18, 2017 at 12:26 pm
RE: First talks of impeachment. - by A Theist - May 18, 2017 at 3:31 pm
RE: First talks of impeachment. - by Chad32 - May 18, 2017 at 3:50 pm
RE: First talks of impeachment. - by Pat Mustard - May 18, 2017 at 4:11 pm
RE: First talks of impeachment. - by A Theist - May 18, 2017 at 3:16 pm
RE: First talks of impeachment. - by Brian37 - May 18, 2017 at 3:36 pm
RE: First talks of impeachment. - by A Theist - May 18, 2017 at 4:04 pm
RE: First talks of impeachment. - by Brian37 - May 18, 2017 at 4:13 pm
RE: First talks of impeachment. - by Amarok - May 18, 2017 at 4:22 pm
RE: First talks of impeachment. - by Brian37 - May 18, 2017 at 4:36 pm
RE: First talks of impeachment. - by downbeatplumb - May 19, 2017 at 12:58 pm
RE: First talks of impeachment. - by mlmooney89 - May 18, 2017 at 11:39 am
RE: First talks of impeachment. - by vorlon13 - May 18, 2017 at 11:55 am
RE: First talks of impeachment. - by Crunchy - May 18, 2017 at 12:23 pm
RE: First talks of impeachment. - by SteelCurtain - May 18, 2017 at 1:01 pm
RE: First talks of impeachment. - by Crunchy - May 18, 2017 at 1:26 pm
RE: First talks of impeachment. - by Brian37 - May 18, 2017 at 1:49 pm
RE: First talks of impeachment. - by Thumpalumpacus - May 18, 2017 at 3:12 pm
RE: First talks of impeachment. - by A Theist - May 19, 2017 at 6:28 am
RE: First talks of impeachment. - by Thumpalumpacus - May 19, 2017 at 11:39 am
RE: First talks of impeachment. - by LastPoet - May 18, 2017 at 1:13 pm
RE: First talks of impeachment. - by Brian37 - May 18, 2017 at 1:23 pm
RE: First talks of impeachment. - by Amarok - May 18, 2017 at 3:31 pm
RE: First talks of impeachment. - by A Theist - May 18, 2017 at 3:47 pm
RE: First talks of impeachment. - by Amarok - May 18, 2017 at 4:01 pm
RE: First talks of impeachment. - by Mystical - May 19, 2017 at 2:06 pm
RE: First talks of impeachment. - by Thumpalumpacus - May 19, 2017 at 5:29 pm
RE: First talks of impeachment. - by Crunchy - May 19, 2017 at 5:53 pm
RE: First talks of impeachment. - by Jackalope - May 19, 2017 at 6:13 pm
RE: First talks of impeachment. - by Thumpalumpacus - May 19, 2017 at 6:48 pm
RE: First talks of impeachment. - by Mystical - May 19, 2017 at 7:40 pm
RE: First talks of impeachment. - by Thumpalumpacus - May 20, 2017 at 12:13 am
RE: First talks of impeachment. - by SteelCurtain - May 19, 2017 at 5:33 pm
RE: First talks of impeachment. - by Silver - May 19, 2017 at 6:51 pm
RE: First talks of impeachment. - by Minimalist - May 19, 2017 at 7:37 pm
RE: First talks of impeachment. - by Minimalist - May 19, 2017 at 8:26 pm
RE: First talks of impeachment. - by downbeatplumb - May 20, 2017 at 4:26 am
RE: First talks of impeachment. - by Jackalope - May 20, 2017 at 11:34 pm
RE: First talks of impeachment. - by Chad32 - May 19, 2017 at 8:42 pm
RE: First talks of impeachment. - by Jackalope - May 19, 2017 at 8:57 pm
RE: First talks of impeachment. - by Minimalist - May 19, 2017 at 9:02 pm
RE: First talks of impeachment. - by Jackalope - May 19, 2017 at 9:15 pm
RE: First talks of impeachment. - by Minimalist - May 20, 2017 at 1:54 am
RE: First talks of impeachment. - by Jackalope - May 20, 2017 at 1:01 am
RE: First talks of impeachment. - by dyresand - May 22, 2017 at 11:58 am
RE: First talks of impeachment. - by Angrboda - May 22, 2017 at 12:27 pm
RE: First talks of impeachment. - by dyresand - May 22, 2017 at 1:26 pm

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