RE: First talks of impeachment.
May 20, 2017 at 12:13 am
(This post was last modified: May 20, 2017 at 12:18 am by Thumpalumpacus.)
(May 19, 2017 at 7:40 pm)Luckie Wrote:(May 19, 2017 at 6:48 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: Legally speaking, that is any time Congress has not declared war on another nation.
That'll be $15.
So the Iraq war wasn't a war?
I'll take "equivocation" for $500, Alex.
I clearly specified "legally" in my answer to Crunchy.
(May 19, 2017 at 8:57 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: I dunno, just because a de jour declaration of war hasn't occurred, certainly doesn't mean a de facto state of war does not exist.
Congress has the power to declare war. Continuing to fund a de facto war makes that declaration evident whether it was made officially or not.
The point was that treason, legally, can only happen in times of war. And because in a court the term "time of war" also has a legal meaning, it's best to pay attention to that sort of thing.
You want to convict Trump of treason? You'll need to first show that a state of war exists.
Legally speaking, regarding Russia (which was the context of my comment), it does not.
Yes, wars happen without declarations. But we're talking law here, not fact.