RE: morality is subjective and people don't have free will
May 22, 2017 at 10:54 am
(This post was last modified: May 22, 2017 at 10:58 am by Whateverist.)
(May 19, 2017 at 5:43 pm)Neo-Scholastic Wrote:(May 19, 2017 at 5:31 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: It's the collective response which determines morality.
Sounds pragmatic but not principled. I guess if everyone comes to think female genital mutilation is okay then it will be. Today slavery is wrong but it was okay in the 17th century. And exactly how does one define the collective response? Is 51% sufficient to determine if something is moral?
But this is the idea -that there are immutable principles which must always be followed- which leads to honor killing, Jihad, stoning of rape victims and the rest of it.
Being 'principled' in the face of pragmatic evidence of its destructiveness is what is wrong with being principled. If you can't reflect on and revise your principles, they are as apt to do more harm as prevent it. The person who does evil cannot absolve themselves of responsibility then just by pointing to the principle.
And your suggestion that female genital mutilation or slavery are parallels for self chosen termination of life are perplexing. What is the immediately obvious justification for either of those which corresponds to the benefit of subtracting oneself from the pool of the human virus which is over running and threatening the well being of the very web of life on which we depend?
(May 22, 2017 at 10:33 am)Jörmungandr Wrote:(May 19, 2017 at 6:33 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: Your principles hopefully lie in your gut rather than an ancient book. Where would you suggest we get our principles from?
Guess we'll never know where Neo gets his vaunted 'principles' from.
*crickets-chirping*
Guess we all just have to hope his mindless adherence to them won't get us all gunned down in the end.