(May 22, 2017 at 5:21 pm)SteveII Wrote: I have not changed my position one iota.
Children are not taught how to be selfish, hurtful, disobedient, dishonest etc. yet they are. There is only one possible conclusion--they are born that way.
Since in Christianity, we call those acts sinful, it follows: children are sinful. Sin is a description of an act/intention/or omission--and not a description of moral responsibility which is why I stated over and over that I do not think that young children are morally responsible for their actions.
I stated over and over that we (and nobody I know) teach young children that they are "tainted sinners". They get age appropriate explanations long after toddlerhood. If you find someone who did not give age appropriate information to the child, that simply calls into question good judgement--not doctrine.
Agree, born that way, by nature. Do they stay that way, no. And it's not because of christian religion. It's because their mind continues to grow and develop within society/culture.
If they grow up in a non christian culture do they retain these behaviors, usually not. Christians, or any religion, does not the exclusive answer for raising/producing moral adults. Quite frankly, they seem to produce more fucked up adults but that's just my opinion.
You may not think that they are morally wrong yet you label them as sinners. Sinning in the christian religion is bad. So the child is labeled bad. Stating that toddlers are sinners because they have not fully developed is just wrong. Telling them at a later date that their behavior as a toddler was sinful is just wrong.
This process of indoctrination, viewing the child as bad and then saving the bad child/individual is no different than cult behavior.
Being told you're delusional does not necessarily mean you're mental.
