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The Trinity and Mary
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RE: The Trinity and Mary
(May 24, 2017 at 4:13 pm)alpha male Wrote:
(May 20, 2017 at 4:06 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: Still, how would you differentiate your belief from a delusion? We have unshakable testimony of countless people who feel in their heart that the Emperor of Japan is divine, or that Muhammad's revelations in the Koran are true. How do you know you're not delusional? I think you're not aware how easily it is for human brain to be tricked. Fro instance horror movies do this. If I watch a scary movie I may get a feeling that somebody is watching me, although I know I'm alone in the room. That feeling can be really believable and I can imagine if there were people that would encourage me to hod to this feeling and praise me for it I may even see it as a revelation. Especially if my family and other people went trough the same thing.

But if someone has a Y chromosome and a penis but feels like a woman, that's not just a feeling or a delusion, it's incontrovertible proof that the person is a woman.

If you say so....

(May 24, 2017 at 6:47 pm)Lek Wrote:
(May 24, 2017 at 12:28 pm)Harry Nevis Wrote: Is that what god did for you?

I'll relate my most recent revelation of this type in which God acted through another individual.  I had been struggling with the christian faith and had seriously contemplated leaving it.  My problem was that I had come to think that other religions had their messengers from God, that maybe Jesus was one of numerous messengers and they had their own pathways to God.  I had been praying to God for guidance, specifically about who Jesus was.

At the time that I was going through this, I was sitting in bible study one Sunday morning at my church.  I glanced through the sliding doors and noticed a man in the courtyard who looked like he just stepped out of first century Jerusalem.  He had long hair and a long beard and was dressed in clothes similar to the time.  I didn't really think much of it because my church is located in the inner city and we do ministries for the homeless, drug addicts and mentally ill people who wander around and come to the church for meals and clothing and on Sunday mornings to get some of the goodies we always have out for the church members and anyone else who wants them.  I'm used to seeing all kinds of people.  By the time I got out of bible study he was gone.

Anyway, on Wednesday I was at the same room in a men's group bible study when into the room comes this same guy, dressed in the same outfit.  We invited him to sit at the table with us, but he said he would like to sit by himself and observe.  After the study was over, he walked up to me and asked to talk to me.  He related to me that he lived in a location that is about an eight hour drive from were we were.  God had put it on him to drive to my church and talk to someone, although he didn't know who.  He just relied on God to point him out.  He had left on Sunday unsure that he had met the person he was sent to and decided to come back again.  During the bible study I talked about something and he realized that I was the one he needed to talk to.

I don't even remember most of what we discussed, but what I remember most clearly is that, at first, I wasn't totally sure that he was a christian.  I asked him if he believed that Jesus is God.  He opened a bible and went to this verse:

Isaiah 7:14New Living Translation (NLT)
14 All right then, the Lord himself will give you the sign. Look! The virgin will conceive a child! She will give birth to a son and will call him Immanuel (which means ‘God is with us’).

He told me that is who Jesus is - God with us.  I realized that Jesus was not simple a messenger from God, but rather God himself in the form of a man. Jesus stated that he is the only way to the Father.  We talked for about an hour, said goodbye and he left, confident that he had accomplished what God had sent him to do.  I know that you will have your own thoughts concerning this event, but I take this as a revelation from God directed just to me. This isn't the only reason that I remain a christian, but rather a communication from God that reaffirms my belief.  Every time I've considered walking away, he's reaffirmed himself to me.  P.S. This guy spoke like an educated individual, owned property, drove a late model van and didn't ask me for money. Oh yeah! This guy did not claim to be Jesus.

Pretty mundane for a divine revelation.
"The last superstition of the human mind is the superstition that religion in itself is a good thing."  - Samuel Porter Putnam
 
           

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Messages In This Thread
The Trinity and Mary - by vorlon13 - May 16, 2017 at 1:59 am
RE: The Trinity and Mary - by Fake Messiah - May 16, 2017 at 4:29 am
RE: The Trinity and Mary - by Lek - May 16, 2017 at 2:43 pm
RE: The Trinity and Mary - by Fake Messiah - May 17, 2017 at 5:56 am
RE: The Trinity and Mary - by Lek - May 17, 2017 at 1:09 pm
RE: The Trinity and Mary - by Fake Messiah - May 18, 2017 at 4:24 am
RE: The Trinity and Mary - by Lek - May 18, 2017 at 2:33 pm
RE: The Trinity and Mary - by Cyberman - May 18, 2017 at 2:53 pm
RE: The Trinity and Mary - by Fake Messiah - May 19, 2017 at 2:18 am
RE: The Trinity and Mary - by Fake Messiah - May 19, 2017 at 6:11 am
RE: The Trinity and Mary - by Drich - May 18, 2017 at 8:38 am
RE: The Trinity and Mary - by Minimalist - May 16, 2017 at 11:33 am
RE: The Trinity and Mary - by John V - May 16, 2017 at 2:53 pm
RE: The Trinity and Mary - by CapnAwesome - May 16, 2017 at 3:02 pm
RE: The Trinity and Mary - by vorlon13 - May 16, 2017 at 9:07 pm
RE: The Trinity and Mary - by Cyberman - May 16, 2017 at 9:10 pm
RE: The Trinity and Mary - by Cyberman - May 18, 2017 at 9:13 am
RE: The Trinity and Mary - by Harry Nevis - May 18, 2017 at 10:07 am
RE: The Trinity and Mary - by Minimalist - May 18, 2017 at 11:25 am
RE: The Trinity and Mary - by Lek - May 18, 2017 at 4:53 pm
RE: The Trinity and Mary - by Lek - May 19, 2017 at 4:33 pm
RE: The Trinity and Mary - by Fake Messiah - May 20, 2017 at 4:06 am
RE: The Trinity and Mary - by John V - May 24, 2017 at 4:13 pm
RE: The Trinity and Mary - by Fake Messiah - May 25, 2017 at 3:50 am
RE: The Trinity and Mary - by John V - May 25, 2017 at 12:17 pm
RE: The Trinity and Mary - by Fake Messiah - May 26, 2017 at 4:44 am
RE: The Trinity and Mary - by Harry Nevis - May 25, 2017 at 8:01 am
RE: The Trinity and Mary - by Lek - May 25, 2017 at 12:05 pm
RE: The Trinity and Mary - by Harry Nevis - May 23, 2017 at 8:38 am
RE: The Trinity and Mary - by Lek - May 24, 2017 at 12:15 pm
RE: The Trinity and Mary - by Harry Nevis - May 24, 2017 at 12:28 pm
RE: The Trinity and Mary - by Lek - May 24, 2017 at 6:47 pm
RE: The Trinity and Mary - by Fake Messiah - May 30, 2017 at 4:08 am
RE: The Trinity and Mary - by Lek - May 30, 2017 at 12:28 pm
RE: The Trinity and Mary - by Cyberman - May 19, 2017 at 4:53 pm
RE: The Trinity and Mary - by Lek - May 19, 2017 at 5:42 pm
RE: The Trinity and Mary - by Silver - May 19, 2017 at 5:44 pm
RE: The Trinity and Mary - by Lek - May 19, 2017 at 6:47 pm
RE: The Trinity and Mary - by Silver - May 19, 2017 at 6:50 pm
RE: The Trinity and Mary - by Cyberman - May 19, 2017 at 5:48 pm
RE: The Trinity and Mary - by Lek - May 20, 2017 at 3:37 pm
RE: The Trinity and Mary - by The Grand Nudger - May 24, 2017 at 12:24 pm
RE: The Trinity and Mary - by vorlon13 - May 24, 2017 at 7:02 pm
RE: The Trinity and Mary - by Minimalist - May 24, 2017 at 7:07 pm
RE: The Trinity and Mary - by The Grand Nudger - May 25, 2017 at 12:38 pm
RE: The Trinity and Mary - by Lek - May 25, 2017 at 2:02 pm
RE: The Trinity and Mary - by The Grand Nudger - May 25, 2017 at 11:31 pm
RE: The Trinity and Mary - by Lek - May 26, 2017 at 10:32 am
RE: The Trinity and Mary - by Harry Nevis - May 26, 2017 at 11:01 am
RE: The Trinity and Mary - by vorlon13 - May 25, 2017 at 11:46 pm
RE: The Trinity and Mary - by The Grand Nudger - May 25, 2017 at 11:47 pm
RE: The Trinity and Mary - by The Grand Nudger - May 26, 2017 at 11:48 am
RE: The Trinity and Mary - by Minimalist - May 26, 2017 at 11:57 am

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