Our server costs ~$56 per month to run. Please consider donating or becoming a Patron to help keep the site running. Help us gain new members by following us on Twitter and liking our page on Facebook!
Current time: June 17, 2025, 2:19 pm

Thread Rating:
  • 0 Vote(s) - 0 Average
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
The Problem of Evil combined with the problem of Free Will
RE: The Problem of Evil combined with the problem of Free Will
(May 31, 2017 at 12:22 pm)Valyza1 Wrote: Example?
Sure.  Nutter A claims to have spoken to god.  In less than overt ridicule, I ask a bunch of questions about that conversation.  Not, mind you, because I want to "learn" about something that never happened..but because I can't wait to watch Nutter A trip all over his own peen in backpedaling.  He's not a crazy, you see, he meant something novel by that, it's not like he hears voices...like those other crazies....on and on and on....

Quote:Do you think there's any truth to it?
No, that sort of social magnetism..imo, is an empty deepity rooted in our ignorant past.  

Quote:Not necessarily dimmer, but strengthening whatever level of "dimness" is there by re-affirming any prejudice they may already have against you, just by continuing to ridicule.  You make it sound like theists aren't even human and are unaffected, on a subconscious level, by what you contribute to the conversation. I find that to be highly unlikely.  
I'm not reaffirming those prejudices, they are..and they don't need my help to do that....in fact, they can reaffirm those prejudices even when I do exactly the opposite of what -would- reaffirm them, and they do.  While you busy yourself coming up with some sort of enmity scale ...I'll simply remind you that if the sort of enmity nutballs have for non-believers is the baseline, from which it can be increased by mean words (boohoo snowflakes)..it doesn't matter much what comes up higher on that scale.  

Meanwhile, they've had their entire lives to have that baseline decreased...they've been around and spoken to non-believers pretty much every day of their existence...they're surrounded by them, and none of that, so far, led to any eureka moment you may be hoping for by being nice.  There's no shortage of people who, like yourself, insist on undue deference in the face of depravity.  People who honestly believe that by being nice to a terrible person, that person will somehow become less terrible themselves.  So...they;ve got that...they;ve got that all over the place.  The sorts of interactions you advocate for happen all the time.

-and yet they persist, and yet you persist.  Do you ever feel like Sisyphus, rolling that boulder up that hill only to watch it come tumbling back down, over and over?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
Reply



Messages In This Thread
RE: The Problem of Evil combined with the problem of Free Will - by The Grand Nudger - May 31, 2017 at 12:55 pm

Possibly Related Threads...
Thread Author Replies Views Last Post
  Evil God and anti-theodicy FrustratedFool 32 4985 August 21, 2023 at 9:28 am
Last Post: FrustratedFool
  Do people make evil? Interaktive 7 1200 August 8, 2022 at 2:11 pm
Last Post: onlinebiker
  Atheism, Gnosticism & the Problem of Evil Seax 86 9697 April 7, 2021 at 9:25 pm
Last Post: Silver
  [Serious] Good vs Evil Losty 84 15695 March 8, 2021 at 4:33 am
Last Post: The Valkyrie
  Bishop setting up group to fight off 'evil forces' and recite prayers of exorcism Marozz 14 3493 October 11, 2018 at 5:19 am
Last Post: OakTree500
  Why some humans are so evil: double standards and irreligion WinterHold 124 26873 January 28, 2018 at 5:38 am
Last Post: downbeatplumb
  Why the Texas shooting is not evil, based on the bible Face2face 56 19907 November 16, 2017 at 7:21 am
Last Post: Little Rik
  The forces of good and evil are related Silver 11 4335 October 2, 2017 at 9:30 pm
Last Post: Astonished
  If God created all the good things around us then it means he created all EVIL too ErGingerbreadMandude 112 28297 March 3, 2017 at 9:53 am
Last Post: Harry Nevis
  This is incontrovertible proof that God is evil. God does not live by his own golden Greatest I am 17 4880 November 29, 2016 at 6:10 pm
Last Post: ApeNotKillApe



Users browsing this thread: 1 Guest(s)