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The Problem of Evil combined with the problem of Free Will
RE: The Problem of Evil combined with the problem of Free Will
(May 31, 2017 at 9:13 pm)Valyza1 Wrote:
(May 31, 2017 at 8:25 pm)Khemikal Wrote: Can they, can they be something other than nutballs?  If they can, they sure don't employ that ability very often.
In my experience, human beings are multifaceted.  You can apply any label you like for the sake of convenience, but at the end of the day, you can't capture their value on a hook.
-agreed, but that doesn't change the contents of my experience or address my comment in the least.  OFC people are multifaceted., and sometimes those multifaceted people act in very, very strange ways.  

Quote:Well, then I agree with you there.  I never suggested ridicule makes them believers in the first place.  I only suggested the fish are going to flap their hardest when caught on the hook.  Also, that it isn't a service to anyone but the fisherman or those ordering fish.  I hate the analogy, and I don't know what eating the fish would be analogous to, but I'm doing my best with it.  
Hahaha, well stop expanding it, then?  If the fish realizes that it's fucking up...ostensibly, a service has been done -for- the fish.  I'm not sure how it benefits me personally, much, though..for some nutter to realize he's a nut.  I wouldn't know that though, having never talked anyone out of a belief to see what benefit it confers me.  

Quote:I don't care if you're an atheist or theist, it isn't my place to determine how you can or can't behave.  You can go out and murder a bunch of kids, and it still wouldn't be my place to tell you you're wrong, even though I would try to help preventative measures like the effort to keep you locked up.  But I do consider it my place in a discussion forum to have a discussion worth having, and the topic of what's a better way to respond is interesting to me and i think is worth sharing my views on.  
Some of that is a bit odd, but I'll focus on where we agree.  I also think that the topic of what;s a better way to respond is an interesting one..and I, personally, allow for some ridicule in the mix of whatever the total composition of that better way is.  I think it has utility, it's limited utility..but isn't all utility limited?  

Quote:. I agree and would never expect anyone to shield me from the consequences of sharing my beliefs.  That doesn't mean I shouldn't share my opinions on what are better and worse ways to respond.  They may not do any good for you, but maybe they will for someone else.  Not only that, but I wouldn't even know for sure how they affect you until I actually post them in the first place.  I'm perfectly aware of what I might invoke by posting them, and accept the risk, because I find the potential rewards to be worth it.
You are sharing your views, I don't see why you think we're talking about keeping you from doing so....as we talk about your views.  Left field.  I've already told you that I prefer the nuttiest of nuts to be talkative nuts.
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RE: The Problem of Evil combined with the problem of Free Will - by The Grand Nudger - June 1, 2017 at 12:01 am

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