(June 1, 2017 at 2:57 pm)Khemikal Wrote: You think so?
Yes, it's pretty apparent.
Quote:I don't personally have any use for the term anchor baby. It seems that the right does. I don;t bitch and moan about dollars spent on educating citizen children of mexican parents....I don;t have any problem with those citizen children being afforded access to the social safety netNeither do I. The key word is citizen. Until a non-citizen actually gets here and gives birth, though, this is all irrelevant. Making it more difficult for people to get here in the first place in no way affects children who are citizens.
And I don't recall if it was this thread or another - probably the Manchester bombing thread - but didn't you disparage arguments for the children?
Quote:I don't think, to be honest..it's me that has a novel view of who is, and who aint..'murican.I disagree. Citizen is citizen.
Quote:I do, ofc, think that even dirty ass non american mexicans.....you know, your villains, have rights, in this country. Human rights -and- constitutional rights. This country's laws agree. Where do you live, that a human being can be written off simply for being mexican?
Section 1, of the 14th amendment -
Quote:All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside. No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.Notice, it doesn't say "unless they're mexican" - about anything, anywhere...in there....?
Yes, it does - that would be the "born or naturalized in the United States." Or the "citizens of the United States" part. As persons, once here, due process and equal protection apply to non-citizens. We can't deport them without due process - but we can deport them as long as due process is followed. Before they get here - no, they really don't have rights under our constitution.
Quote:Why don't you go buy a gun to defend that?
I'm considering it. I don't know why you focus on Mexicans, as I generally focus on immigrants from the middle east. We regularly see terrorist attacks in Europe. Leaders there say that terrorism is now just a way of life that they have to accept. I don't want to live like that. Call me a racist over it if you like - trucks and nailbombs can break my bones, but words will never hurt me, to update the childhood taunt for modern times. While those get the headlines, the quiet takeover is more important, and I'd prefer to prevent that here as well. Sharia law doesn't recognize our constitution. Yes, I'd buy a gun to defend against that.