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The Problem of Evil combined with the problem of Free Will
RE: The Problem of Evil combined with the problem of Free Will
(June 2, 2017 at 10:38 am)Drich Wrote: It's no longer hope, I seen and experienced all I need to know what is coming. What this life for me now is preparing for what is to come.
And?  What does that have to do with me, what I fear, or why I do what I do?  Nothing.  

Quote:I fear God. His judgement was something Christ had to condend with on my behalf.
Good for you?  I don't.

Quote:actually is only dammed if you do nothing.
Sure, okay.  Whatever's convenient for you at any point.  

Quote:Big Grin  which is why your able to lay it out so well. because you've given no thought to any of this :thumbsup:

Meanwhile I only think about this stuff when one of your 'contented' peers asks a question like what started this thread.
I already -told- you I don't give this shit the time of day..that's -why- you're wrong about the relative ease or difficulty of death, in my case. 

Quote:That nothingness was Hell fire sport. It was creation/matter being consumed by.. antimatter/oppsite of creation. Everyone was in pain including the demons and satan. Hell is not satan's realm this world will be if not already is.
Oh ofc, hell is whatever you need it to be at this juncture in the convo and definitely not what you said it was before.  Look, I know that I'm dealing with a liar for christ, and there's no need to argue these points anyway.  Okay, hell is demons poking people after all.  And?  Doesn't change anything about my position on the matter.  

Quote:Yes I did and have made the necessary steps in order for that not to happen.
Okay.  I didn't, won't, and can't..hell, I don't even care.  That's my entire point

Quote:There is a long and winding road between death and oblivion that goes through Hell. Remember I only made is as far as the gates and damn near lost my mind. The torment is not forever as the bible only describes satan having been given that 'reward.' however I can only imagine a just God intentionally prolonging our stay in hell in direct accordance with how evil we were. For example I would think Hitler's stay in Hell would be for far longer than one of you dbags who's biggest sin is not being able to leave another boy's b-hole alone. And again I don't know if the elements of our soul remain but consciousness or is completely consumed or if we are just consumed/obliterated. The difference being the blissful unawareness of anything, and some part of your being smoldering forever.

eaning I had a personal sense of my higher thought processes being lost to insanity and then nothing, and yet a part of me remained. the animalistic primitive reactionary side remained. To be punished further to be consumed/obliterated idk. That was when I was pull out of there.
Do you imagine the devil torturing gay people often?  Why do you think that is? I appreciate that you believe that the cosmos gave you a tourist ticket to hell..but if it did, that still doesn't change anything about me.  

Quote:But again fear is not rational. so then how can you rationally work out how you will feel till you stand before or even get cast into the abyss?
Again I has no fear of hell because I thought the soul had no physical feelings. Therefore I wanted to fight God as I had no fear of Him or Hell.
Like I said, if a god is going to waterboard me to my knees that's what it's going to do.  So?  Why on earth would I want to fight a god, a real god? Doesn't that seem a little bit pointless, like punching a tree?

Quote:Good luck maintaining that view.
I won;t be maintaining anything..regardless.  Either I;m going to simply cease to exist because there is no god and no afterlife..or, depending on what bullshit you've been caught in..I;m going to cease to exist as punishment for my "sins"....or...gods going to torture me into quivering compliance as punishment for my sins.  In each case, I'm no longer there.  

Quote:The defense isn't for him, it's for you.
It is like in mat 5 "Lord, Lord didn't we do abc/xyz for you???"
What defense, simpleton?  I don't have one, won't be coming up with one, and don't have some sort of secret contigency plan to talk my way out of whatever torture a god has planned.  You must understand how fucking ridiculous that sounds........?  It sounds even more ridiculous to me...because I don't believe what you believe.  Do you understand?

Quote:what when have you faced anything? discussing how to slay a dragon is not facing and slaying the dragon.
You;re actually quoting yourself there...

Quote:Again your untested, so how can you with a modicum of truth pretend to know where you stand or what you believe.
.......those are your words...again...

Quote:Again until you are stood before the pit how can you say you will know no fear?
........and again..............Drich...you're talking to yourself..literally....and bickering with yourself....literally.  Holy....shitballs, lol?  

Quote:He is my God of mercy, to you He is the God of wrath and righteousness.
Mercy because He has given me a pass on the wrath.
No Drich...to me, god is not a god at all, there is no god.  I'm an atheist........
Not that it would matter in the case of your god...since -I- couldn't be a christian either way.

Look, your idea of what atheists will do, or why they do what they do...relies on a person believing the shit you believe...on being a person -like- you. It's absurd to even make the conjecture..since atheists, by definition..don;t believe what you believe..theyre not like you. While you may believe that you;re offering up some sort of sage observation as regards atheists and their plans...you're not doing anything but giving us a window into your own soul...a window which, apparently, you yourself have never peered through...because you're blissfully unaware, while doing it, of what you're doing.
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RE: The Problem of Evil combined with the problem of Free Will - by The Grand Nudger - June 2, 2017 at 11:12 am

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